Catalina - Capri - 25s International Assocaition Logo(2006)  
Assn Members Area · Join
Association Forum
Association Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Forum Users | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums
 Catalina 25 Specific Forum
 Snap Fasteners Leaking?
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

HerdOfTurtles
1st Mate

Member Avatar

USA
49 Posts

Initially Posted - 10/08/2018 :  18:59:14  Show Profile  Visit HerdOfTurtles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would like to install a sunbrella cover over my companionway to help keep water out of the boat when there's a downpour but I'm not sure what's the best way to install the snaps. One guy basically writes them off as destroying your boat:

"Snap fasteners? You mean those little snaps that hold my enclosures and covers on could be causing me a problem? Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Every single snap that is installed into a cored structure is likely to be allowing water into the core. One recent example turned up a 31' Tiara in which the entire deck and cabin trunk core was filled with water, so much so that water was running out from under the snap fasteners, leaving nice trails of green slime. This happened because someone installed snap fasteners all over the cabin top to secure sunbathing cushions."

What do you ya'll think? Hogwash? Silicone? Life caulk? Butyl tape?

1978 Standard Rig
Fin Keel
L-Dinette

Edited by - HerdOfTurtles on 10/08/2018 19:03:17

Voyager
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4145 Posts

Response Posted - 10/08/2018 :  19:21:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good question. I have a dozen or more snap fasteners ringing the cabin top on Passage. I think they were intended for the pop top cover gizmo. Never used it.

One or two of these fell out so I ground out the holes and filled with MarineTex. I imagine if I pulled all of them out Id find a small amount of rotten wood in each one. They were probably installed correctly over 15-20 years ago, but nothing lasts forever.

If you want to add snaps, just drill out the holes with a 1 diameter, so theyre larger than the new screws. Then fill the holes with thickened epoxy. Once the epoxy cures, either install a threaded sleeve or drill a screw sized hole and screw in the snaps.

Eyeball the screw shank and make sure the drill is thinner than the threads but thicker than the shank.

You can use polysufide caulk to bed the snaps in the odd case that the drill punctures or cracks the plugs.

Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain Stratford & Milford, CT
Go to Top of Page

OLarryR
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
3186 Posts

Response Posted - 10/09/2018 :  03:49:47  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also have snap fasteners that are adjacent to the companionway and cabin top. They were most likely put there for attaching a pop top cover. I have never had an issue with the snap fasteners - They do not penetrate into the cabin and about 2 years or so ago, I decided to strip my companionway boards of varnish/cetol that had accumulated for who knows how long and then treated the boards with teak oil. I now utilize a Sunbrella cover over the boards to extend the life of the teak oil. Inorder to do that, I installed snaps to a fitted piece of sunbrella matching up the snaps with the existing snap fasteners that surround my companionway. I cleaned up the existing snaps and the cover snaps on and off fine.

I have another cover, actually two covers connected to each other which will utilize the snaps on top of the cabin to protect my rails, etc once I stripped them of remaining varnish and treat with teak oil. However, the covers on top of the cabin are a bit of a chore to install and uninstall each time you go sailing. It is nice to get onboard and square away any prep efficiently to get on with the sailing. Installing covers has benefits but once you start covering everything, it becomes a bit of a nuisance added to the start up and wind down of each sailing day.

Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Wash DC http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html
Go to Top of Page

Erik Cornelison
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
131 Posts

Response Posted - 10/09/2018 :  15:01:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My boat has them on the cabin top, probably been installed since the late 80s.

Ill check them this fall to see if they are letting water in. Ill report here what I find in a few weeks after I pull the boat for the season.

No issues so far, but my boat came from New Mexico which doesnt see much rain.

Erik Cornelison
6th Generation Professional Sailor, First Gen Submarine Sailor.
1986 Standard Rig SW. #5234

Edited by - Erik Cornelison on 10/09/2018 15:04:15
Go to Top of Page

ortizc1209
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
4 Posts

Response Posted - 10/11/2018 :  17:41:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My boat also has the fasteners that you are talking about. These are there for the pop-top canvas.
I have not noticed any issues with water damage.

Carlos Ortiz
"Colibri" 1986 Catalina 25
Std Rig #5150, Seabrook, TX
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Association Forum © since 1999 Catalina Capri 25s International Association Go To Top Of Page
Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.06
Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.