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hnash53
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Initially Posted - 08/02/2018 :  07:28:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there... I'm a new Catalina 25 owner... a 1978, fin keel. It's in decent shape for its age.

The small recessed cockpit storage areas located in the coamings need to be pulled and rebuilt/replaced/etc.

I removed the screws holding the bins in place, but cannot get them out to repair/replace them.

Can someone comment on how these things can be removed and replaced?

Many thanks.

I live in Waldport, Oregon and have my boat moored in the South Beach (Newport) Oregon marina.

Hal Nash

jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/02/2018 :  09:55:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you tried to get at them from below? The starboard side should be accessible from the berth below, and I'd expect the port side can be gotten to from inside the port lazarette.
Let us know how it works out.

Jerry
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hnash53
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Response Posted - 08/02/2018 :  10:13:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the reply. I have only tried to remove them from the cockpit side. I took out the four corner screws and went around the frame with a thin putty knife and loosened it a bit... that's as far as I've gotten.

I will look today from below and see if that gives me a way of getting them out.
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hnash53
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Response Posted - 08/07/2018 :  18:56:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jerlim

Have you tried to get at them from below? The starboard side should be accessible from the berth below, and I'd expect the port side can be gotten to from inside the port lazarette.
Let us know how it works out.



I took a look today from below. The actual boxes are made of plywood and need to be replaced. There doesn't seem to be anything else holding the box together. I guess a thin putty knife and a "persuader" is in order now.

Catalina Direct sells the frame for the opening but I didn't see anything online for the box itself.

Being exposed to the weather as they are, who made the executive decision to build the boxes out of wood? What are people using to replace the box (if Catalina Direct doesn't have them)?
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/07/2018 :  20:48:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They were fiberglass on my 1985. I suspect the change was not long after yours was made--yours was only the second full year of production. I hadn't seen or heard of wood coaming boxes. (But there are lots of things I haven't heard of.)

Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, ex-OUPV
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

Passage, Mystic, and Sarge--click to enlarge.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 08/07/2018 20:52:41
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hnash53
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Response Posted - 08/07/2018 :  20:54:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Stinkpotter

They were fiberglass on my 1985. I suspect the change was not long after yours was made--yours was only the second full year of production. I hadn't seen or heard of wood coaming boxes. (But there are lots of things I haven't heard of.)



Thanks for the reply. Do you know if the boxes are available as parts somewhere?
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islander
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Response Posted - 08/08/2018 :  04:39:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The coaming boxes were an option when the boat was new. It could be yours were added by a PO later (generic). It would explain why they are wood. Like Dave said, The ones from Catalina are fiberglass as far as I know. The trim rings were teak but now can be had in plastic. You can never assume on an old boat with multiple PO,s that anything is how it was when the boat rolled out brand new. I've seen a few early production boats without boxes so It could be that the boxes weren't available in the first years.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound



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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/08/2018 :  06:03:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are at least some variations, such as this from WM:



(You could omit the net.)

Then there's this "coaming box" at Defender:



...and a variety of "glove boxes" with lockable doors,including more on Amazon.

Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic, CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, ex-OUPV
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

Passage, Mystic, and Sarge--click to enlarge.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 08/08/2018 06:04:29
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hnash53
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Response Posted - 08/08/2018 :  06:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many thanks, forum readers!! I'm on it.
Much appreciated!
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 08/08/2018 :  07:12:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would also contact both Catalina Yachts and Catalina Direct (unrelated to each other but CD provides tons of replacement parts for all Catalina boats) to see if there is a plastic/fiberglass replacement you could purchase and install -- would be much easier to maintain than a wooden one!

Peter Bigelow
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Rowayton, Ct
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/08/2018 :  08:46:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hnash53

Many thanks, forum readers!! I'm on it.
Much appreciated!

Just an example of why to join... Best $22 you'll spend on the boat!

Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic, CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, ex-OUPV
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

Passage, Mystic, and Sarge--click to enlarge.
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hnash53
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Response Posted - 08/14/2018 :  15:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been trying to figure out how to post pics... but unsuccessful.

Anyways, the cut out for these coaming/cockpit boxes is different than the replacements I found on Defender. CD doesn't stock them any longer. The ones on Defender are oblong with round ends. My cut outs are larger and rectangular in shape.

I rehabilitated both of the boxes... one of which I was able to remove. The other one is so set in its place that I left it. I sanded them inside and then coated them with Titebond 3, a waterproof waterbased glue... a couple of coats. Then I strengthened the bottom board by laying down some sheetrock seam netting (very strong) in the wet Titebond3. Installed the one today and have put on the first coat of marine primer paint and hope to finish them off this weekend.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/15/2018 :  08:29:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely an after-market addition.

Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic, CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, ex-OUPV
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

Passage, Mystic, and Sarge--click to enlarge.
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