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Derek Crawford
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Initially Posted - 04/29/2002 : 11:16:35

Our Club held its annual Fiesta Regatta this weekend. Saturday (slated for 3 races) was blowing a steady 28 - 30 with gusts. I had to hoist a 105 jib just to get out to the course - with no main up we had virtually no control - every time we tacked the bow would just keep on turning and we were constantly heeled at 30 + degrees. We felt that even if we hoisted a reefed main to gain steerage control, it would be "spreader-in-the-water time". The RC wisely cancelled races for the day...
A Beneteau 31 tore his traveler mounting off the cabin top in a jibe. An Irwin 28 ripped out a double-reefed main (at the sail ties, naturally!) and another boat shredded a 110 jib. Then the RC boat (a Hunter 25.5) hadn't enough power in his OB to drive to weather and recover the anchor - he had to cut the rode.
Well at least we now know the limitations of this C25!
Yesterday we went out to finish the Regatta - winds 10k to start, dropping throughout the day to almost drifter conditions. I'm glad to say that "This Side Up" did a horizon job on the fleet in the first 2 races and got second in the 3rd.
Derek - C25 TRFK #2262 <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Response Posted - 04/29/2002 : 12:46:14

See if you can pick up a storm jib (~40 sq. ft.) and put a second set of reef points in your main. Teasel has the second set where the third would be. On my old boat (a PY23) I had reef points in the jib and could reef it to about an 80% blade. A blade jib and a double-reefed main and the C25 can handle 30 kts no sweat.

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Response Posted - 04/29/2002 : 13:03:18

Alright Derek, time to fess-up. Which horizon and out of how many boats <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> ?

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MattL
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Response Posted - 04/29/2002 : 13:58:45

OK Steve, lets drop this hoizon job stuff right now<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/29/2002 : 17:19:49

Charles - thanks for the suggestions but with all due respect when it blows like that I'd just as soon stay in the Clubhouse, those conditions are too hard on both my body and the boat! (That's only the second time in 14 years that we have seen that much wind on the lake on race day).
Derek

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Response Posted - 04/30/2002 : 17:01:29

I agree with the race cancellation, and I don't willingly go out in such conditions either: too hard on the rig and anxiety-making. I have been caught out in such conditions once or twice when relying on NOAA Weather Lie, however (when the radio says winds 10-12 kts, seas 1 ft and your wind speed indicator shows 25 gusting to 35 over the deck and a nice, square 4-5' LI Sound chop). That's why I have the second set of reef points where they are and the 40 sq. ft. storm jib, it makes life a little easier. BTW, under those conditions the heel never exeeded ~25 degrees and she balanced nicely.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/30/2002 : 18:51:42

Charles - it's comforting to know that it's just not here that NOAA screws up! I spent 5 days on the Gulf of Mexico in forecast 10 - 15k winds from S-E. For 4 1/2 days we actually had 35 - 40k from due West - right on the nose. Fortunately I was on a 50' Catamaran so heeling wasn't a problem! <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Response Posted - 04/30/2002 : 23:21:35

Derek: The Beneteau tried a jibe in those conditions--probably with the sheet cleated--and was surprised to lose the traveler? The Irwin tried to tidy up the reef with nice tight sail ties? (I love neat-freaks!) And how did the Hunter get home if it couldn't make forward progress to get off the hook?

All rhetorical questions... <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> Congratulations on the horizon jobs!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/01/2002 : 00:20:11

Dave - instead of waiting for the chase boat, he cut the rode...! He now has the GPS coordinates for a fouled anchor and 250' of rode...
Fortunately, we have a few SCUBA divers in the Club!
All in all, it was an interesting day!
Derek

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Response Posted - 05/01/2002 : 08:47:59

in charleston harbor sunday with 25-35 knot winds. a double reefed main from the start, .25 of the 135% genoa for balance, and four people on the windward side kept us under 15 degrees the whole time (and a fifth person was in the stern seat to leeward (she refused to move, enjoying the view as it were). (i also have 300lb of sand in the v berth storage and nothing aft other than passengers). by the way, the boat MOVED.

ron
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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 05/01/2002 : 09:15:44

I was there! On Moon Chaser, a 1999 250WK, on that 1st day we never made it out to the committee boat, we had a storm jib out and the motor on trying to get through the 2' swells and high winds (thats a lot for our lake.) When I saw Derek heading back to the Marina I radio'ed the committee boat and they confirmed no races for the day. We had a freshman crew aboard and finished with two 3rd place and one 2nd place finish in a the Cruiser Fleet of three boats. This Side Up sailed in the Non-Spin fleet, Derek and his crew just ate up the course, his boat is tuned to race and they get after it, This Side Up is beautiful to watch. Derek, I sent you some Pics of you guys in the race, post one for the crew to see...I would do it but I do not know how to post pics on this site,
Steve Steakley

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/01/2002 : 11:00:40

Thanks for the pics Steve!
Now, if one of you computer literate gentlemen would tell me how, I would be glad to post a pic or two. (They are currently in my e-mail inbox).
Derek

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 05/01/2002 : 21:19:39

If I did this right, this is the non-Spin Fleet and you can see Derek's This side up on the left.........whoops, that did not work!

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