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crcalhoon
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Initially Posted - 10/09/2005 : 22:09:10

Well, have finally painted hull and bottom and launched Hull 1435. Used roll and tip and it came out great. Can't say so much for the first coat of paint on deck, but hopefully sandpaper and more coats will fix that. Also all new halyards from Layline. Great source, thanks folks. Now the next phase. The Queen of Teak has informed me that her dainty hands will not touch the absolutely ruined teak topside, so the whole set gets replaced. Not a big problem as my other hobby is woodworking, and I have a friend who is a cabinetmaker. However, in the 13 years since our last boat, things have changed. We have always just oiled teak, because we like the color and texture. But we are getting older. Have used Deks Ole(SP) but it darkens the wood. Have seen Cetol in the harbor, but it seems to do the same thing. Have read about Honey Teak, but can't find anybody locally who has used it. Any references? It sounds almost too good to be true. I wonder about the Honey Teak Light finish.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 10/09/2005 : 22:40:09

Charles - I used to crew on a 50' catamaran (the one destroyed by Ivan...

) and the owner used Honey Teak on all the teak on the boat. It gives a magnificent finish (after 3 coats) that looks better than varnish. Practical Sailor tested it against varnish and cetol and it has far outlasted both. Only disadvantage is that it is expensive and you have to follow precise directions, but everything you need comes in the package. Call the company and you'll probably speak to the president!
Derek

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PamC
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Response Posted - 10/10/2005 : 10:50:09

Following in the footsteps of the previous owner, we used Armada which is similar to Cetol in application but doesn't have the orange tint. It's easy to use and does a fairly good job. I believe I got it from Boatfix.com.

http://www.boatfix.com/bykeywordnew2.asp?textfield=armada&texttype=2

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 10/10/2005 : 11:16:50

In some other forum I found a lot of people recommending a teak oil product called "Teaqua". It has very limited distribution but you can order it from them on their website:
http://www.teaqua.com/

I put it on over labor day weekend and so far it looks just like it did then. Since it's only been 6wks or so I can't get too excited but it is performing better than other teak oils I've used. You can find a number of reviews on it by googling teaqua I think.

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 10/11/2005 : 17:12:15

The teak on my boat was so badly neglected by the prev. owner one could almost stand a penny up in the grains. We used a belt sander to take it down, then 3 coats of Cetol Light, then 4 coats of Cetol Gloss. It lasted almost 6 years. Actually only a few spots needed to be redone. We are doing the same thing again. Highly recommend.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/11/2005 : 22:52:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RoofRoof
 We used a belt sander to take it down, then 3 coats of Cetol Light, then 4 coats of Cetol Gloss. It lasted almost 6 years. Actually only a few spots needed to be redone. We are doing the same thing again. Highly recommend.
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The good thing about Roof's solution is that it can be maintained by light sanding and touching up of the spots that wear, and an easy overcoat from time to time. If you like a finished look but would rather sail than finish brightwork, Cetol is hard to beat, Cetol light gives you a color option (slightly milky instead of slightly orange), and Armada is similar but darker brown. I happen to like the regular Cetol, but that's just personal taste. Another personal taste item is that when I walk down a dock, I find that I'm attracted to the look of finished rather than oiled or weathered exterior teak. Cetol gives the finished look--matte or gloss.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 08:56:25

Dave and I respect each other a lot, however the more you read this forum the more you notice he and I do not agree on a fe fine points of ownership. This is one. I am an oil fan. The more "finished" the teak the odder it looks on our 20+ year old boats. To me teak needs to be smooth to the bare hand touch and treated to help the grain resist raising, that is best done with oil. One thing that people never mention in these discussions is the option of covering your boat while you are gone. Note the white canvas boom tent that I leave down across the cabin top anytime I am not at the boat. My teak does not age! No nasty shiny colored finish, just natural lovely teak. the cover keeps rain and bugs out of the boat while allowing the cabin to breath.

This is bare teak that is 3 months old, (all I did to it was power wash it after 8 years of neglect and mold growth) it shows no signs of darkening. This is the result of the cover. I have not trated this teak with oil yet because I want to finish sand it on the hard next month, then I will oil it.

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 12:03:58

Frank--you and I are pretty much in agreement. All we have ever done in the past is oil. I have always had my boat in slip, never on a trailer and have never had a cover. That means a lot of oiling. But for the past couple of weeks, with all teak removed including hatch boards, I have had it covered with a cheap tarp, and it is not nearly as much trouble as I would have thought. I am really bouncing around about treatment, but leaning toward oil. I think I used to use Te-ka, but don't remember. Any suggestions?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:32:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by crcalhoon
 Frank--you and I are pretty much in agreement. but leaning toward oil. I think I used to use Te-ka, but don't remember. Any suggestions?
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I use Star Brite Teak Oil, I used to use Deks Ole but is stinks. Star Brite products are cheap and available.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 10/14/2005 : 10:36:28

IMHO, As I have done, Varnish, Oil and Cetol, The only way to go is CETOL, It looks good, stays looking good with very little maintaince, and is Easy to maintain. It can be as dark as you want or using cetol light it can have a light finish or a combination. Oil and Varnish are hard to maintain. IMHO... The natural look is interesting when it goes grey BUT I like the warm look and finish of Cetol.

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