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Outfitting a 1986 C25 : Fix-it ?s and Suggestions

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pmcarman
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Initially Posted - 10/15/2005 : 20:35:10

Greetings! My wife and I just bought a 1986 C25, and now the real fun begins! Ok, sailing will be the real fun, but we've got some basic fix-it / cleanup work to do, and would love to know more about what you'd recommend adding / updating. Thanks for your help!

1) Hull / deck nicks: There are a few spots that have some small (1 cm) dings off the deck. There's only a few of them, and I'd love some suggestions on patching them. Recommendations on filler/marine tek type apply/sand putty? Would like to get those cleaned up asap.

2) The teak: I've got a few pieces to get replaced (split long ways), and from the board, I've seen Cetol recommended a lot. Pros/cons? Any other teak-related recommendations (pull it off, sand, cetol? leave on and sand, then oil?)

3) Must have sorts of items: We're going to make sure all the basics are there, from fire ext, to first aid kit, flares. What other items have you found to be "must haves", whether it's for convenience, plain old fun, or "don't get stuck without one of these".

Thank you for all of your help! We'll be picking her up next week and bringing her to her new home, and would like to be as prepared as possible to start! (Sounds like a new baby... <grin!>)

Paul MacGyver Carman
'86 FK/SR #5195 "Althea"
Eau Gallie, FL

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Dan86
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Response Posted - 10/16/2005 : 21:14:19

There are a number of items to check out, hopefully the biggest part you had checked prior to purchasing and have an idea about. The projects that I had to do initially were to update the gudgeons and rudder to ensure it would not fail, again. Water intrudes and causes problems with integrity of the rudder. Replace and reseal the windows as the seal with the polycarbonate was terrible. I also rewired my mast for anchor lights, deck lights and running lights. In that project I added the updated mast base plate, and used the "overfill with epoxy" and redrill method to improve my mast step. I have also replaced a bulkhead, added fiberglass to the transom for increased strength, replaced standing rigging, did my own bottom job complete with blister repair, gelcoat work, etc, etc, etc, all with guidance from this forum. There are some wonderfull folks with great knowlege on this forum that can walk you through anything on these boats. If have a question about a project, check the archives and ask away.

Let us know what configuration your 86 is. Mine is an 86 tall rig, slider top, fin keel with standard dinette set up. Dan

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/17/2005 : 07:56:06

Must have items:

Roll of rigging tape
Roll of Duct Tape
Small tool kit
Roll of sail repair tape (Mylar)
Air Horn
Whistle
Mirror
Flare Kit
Fire Extinguisher
A good tackle box to keep extra screws, bolts, nuts and any small hardware you remove (you never know when you might need it)
VHF radio
A 2 by 2 piece of mylar adhesive to cover any emergencies in the hull along the waterline– enough to get you back to the dock if you hit something
a dowel plug taped to the hull near each through hull/to-hull fitting on the boat
Type IV throwable flotation
First Aid Kit
Maps or charts of the area you sail daily
Spare Fuses (2x the number you use)
Spare Bulbs
Bosuns Chair

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 10/17/2005 : 08:10:23

Welcome to the group Paul.
Experience has taught me that the standing rigging is the thing that will impact you the most if it fails, and I don't know if they made swing keelers at that time, but if yours is a SK, then take a good look a the keel cable. Replace standing rigging if it hints at weakness, very low cost insurance. When it doubt change it out.

Perhaps we'll see you on the water some time.

Paul.

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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 10/17/2005 : 19:44:53

Safety first...cosmetics come later.

If you can't steer and your rigging fails you are seriously screwed.

Go through the standing rigging. Upgrade the gudgeons and pintles. Review the Coast Guard's safety inventory. Communicate? Upgrade the running gear. Can you anchor in emergency?

Then you can start on your lists of maintenance and improvements...BTW they never get shorter, just more expensive.

Jim Williams
Hey Jude C25fk 2958
SF Bay

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/18/2005 : 10:27:29

Where do you sail? I sail on a lake, so much of the required accourterments of the coastal cruiser do not matter to me. No horn, no flare, no radio, no EPIRB, etc. These items have been replaced with ever present shore line and shallow water.
Standing rigging is job one where ever you sail. A sound rudder is critical, but not every rudder system needs repair as a matter of course. The gudgeon upgrade is probably the easiest upgrade there is to do, so most of us have done it and recommend it because we were successfull at it. (I only did the lower because it was even easier!) When I got my 82 it still had wire to rope halyards and I quickly learned that they hang up under the lower shroud mast tangs. Switching to all rope halyards and leading the halyards back to the cockpit was a major safety issue for me. You need to decide what is dangerous for you and address it. If dealing with a hank on sail is danger #1 then get a furler.
Cetol will never be on any wood on any boat I own.
The anchor locker drain is a common leak, you will find the water under your v-berth.
The bow eyes are often damaged.
If you go to my site, (in my sig) you will see many projects. Feel free to ask about any of them.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/18/2005 : 12:13:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 Where do you sail? I sail on a lake, so much of the required accourterments of the coastal cruiser do not matter to me. No horn, no flare, no radio, no EPIRB, etc.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Aren't you required to carry a horn (sound device)?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/18/2005 : 14:50:14

We have the coast guard auxillary. They man their boat about 6 times a year. They chase power boaters, they love us. I suppose I am suppossed to have all the recomended safety stuff but I am unlikely to buy any of it. I would accept items as gifts!

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