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John V.
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Initially Posted - 05/05/2002 : 23:18:43

As I work my way through the list of things for repair, and check out on my 77 C25 I have a question about some fittings. On the outside of the cockpit combing directly below the starboard and port winches, are two plates with half rings, sort of like a plate and u bolt. It's not very heavy and I'm trying to figure out what they are for. The boat came with a cruising chute and I'm wondering if there is supposed to be a separate set of blocks for the chute that use these as an anchor.

Perhaps someone knows and can give me a hint.

Thanks John V. Nin Bimash II
77 C25 sk/sr #153

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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 08:53:51

It may be that they are for blocks for the cruising chute sheets. If so, there should be backing plates for thes fitting because they will be taking qite a load.

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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 10:11:00

I wonder if they were used to help hold a bimini top in place. The frame on my bimini top has a couple of nylon straps with hooks on one end ... they hook into small metal padeyes that have been screwed into the grabrails ... ???

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 10:38:16

John - when we got our '81 C25, there were two metal fittings on each outside of the cockpit on the vertical part above the genoa track, about level with the winches - they were for the old style ladder (that plastic thing) that I promptly replaced with a proper boarding ladder on the transom. Did you perchance find an old plastic folding ladder laying around?
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 16:22:03

Maybe one of these days I'll learn to spell. It occurs to me that these pad eyes may be the terminus for jack lines rigged to the bow cleats for use with a tether and harness in lousy weather.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 18:16:07

Thanks for all the suggestions, the swim ladder anchors are on the port aft side. I did think of jack lines and that is a good suggestion however I'm leaning towards the sheet ends of the cruising chute.. any one else have any suggestions??

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John V. Nin Bimash II
1977 C25 sk/sr #153

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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 18:51:37

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'm leaning towards the sheet ends of the cruising chute.. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Why would someone mount rings on the combing for a chute when they could just put a car on the track?

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 20:18:11

Derek, Your old plastic boarding ladder must have been in poor shape. We have a plastic (very heavy contruction) that folds flat and is stowed in the lazzarett. It is much more user friendly then the stern ladder. The wife and kids all prefer the plastic ladder hung on the starboard side. The stern ladder is used mostly when I am just going for a quick dip. When we were in the San Juans we bumped into Brian Smith and he had the same ladder. Was this an option provided by Catalina?

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 10:06:43

Ed - as a matter of fact it was in very good shape! The problem was that it didn't go far enough under the surface. I have a bad knee and the ladder was difficult to use, especially as the hull curved away from the ladder where it was positioned. After buying 2 other steel ladders for transom mounting, neither of which was satisfacory, I finally acquired a transom ladder designed for an I/B C27. It puts 2 steps below the surface and makes it much easier for me (and the grandkids (!) to exit the water. It's mounted on the stbd side of the transom. I don't know when Catalina gave up on the plastic one - but I'm sure that Bill Holcomb knows! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 11:28:58

Derek,
I had the same problem with the boarding ladder on my 78 25. It is mounted starboard aft and when done it only has one rung in the water. I can normally get out OK but it sure is a pain. I fabricated a 2 rung rope ladder from a spare dock line that I attach prior to putting the ladder down. This seems to work fine and saved the cost of replacing a perfectly good, but short, ladder. When not in use I store the line in the lazzarett.

Free Spirit

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 12:19:06

Derek, I can see your problem. My ladder has 2 rungs under water and thank goodness, I don't have bad knees. I have even thought about putting some sort of small platform or extension on the step nearest the surface of the water for sitting on. We have a Jack Russell Terrier and the platform would give him something to land on.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 13:30:33

Lifelines.......

Take a look at the following. It seems the original boat had an option of a stern pulpit

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/pc8.gif

Its part number is E28 01 05 610, it is described as Lifeline padeye, SS - to be used in lieu of stern pulpit

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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 22:24:21

Didn't want this one to get lost and drop to the bottom!!

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John V.
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Response Posted - 05/08/2002 : 22:56:52

Thanks Duane, That's the Item!! I guess the stern pulpit was an addition and the old safety line anchors just stayed where they were. I wonder what I should do with them now? Does anyone have any suggestions. I could use them to lash down drink holders, or as a clip for the dinghy painter. I could run fishing lines, or perhaps if wecould get her going fast enough we could water ski, fly a kite wow the possibilities are endless....

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John V. Nin Bimash II
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Response Posted - 05/09/2002 : 08:05:08

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Thanks Duane, That's the Item!! I guess the stern pulpit was an addition and the old safety line anchors just stayed where they were. I wonder what I should do with them now? Does anyone have any suggestions. I could use them to lash down drink holders, or as a clip for the dinghy painter. I could run fishing lines, or perhaps if wecould get her going fast enough we could water ski, fly a kite wow the possibilities are endless...
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My guess is that they weren't backed all too well and probably won't take too much of a load. That looks like the spot where my electric comes in. I don't recall what's on the other side, but it could be the phone jack in???(don't ask it wasn't me)

dw

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John V.
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Response Posted - 05/09/2002 : 08:44:29

They do have a backing plate. I crawled back and pulled the inspection plate. I was going there anyway, I'm about to pull all the through deck hardware and re-bed everything with 3m 4200. That's probably why I was looking at these parts anyway. I think I'll pull em and close the holes. One less place to leak.
Thanks for solving the mystery.

John V. Nin Bimash II
77 C25 sk/sr #153

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