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Kip C
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Initially Posted - 02/04/2006 : 07:13:00

Hi all,
Last winter we had our sails cleaned at Sail Care (highly recommend them), so to keep our genoa that way, and as long as possible, I'm thinking if making a roller furling cover. Another reason would be, to use the cover when trailering. I took measurements back in the fall, while the the sails were on, and of coarse, now I can't find them. I was wondering, could someone who is fortunate enough to still have their boat in the water, with a cdi roller furler and a 150 genoa on it, possibly measure where the sheets attach to the clew. Or, if someone has a cover already, what is the width of theirs?
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Kip Casada

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Edited by - Kip C on 02/14/2006 07:38:18

OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/04/2006 : 08:47:54

Kip,

I have a 150 genoa in my basement. When I bought my boat this past Fall, the PO had both a furling rigged jib and genoa and the jib was on the boat. It is a CDI furling rig. I have never used the genoa as of yet but it should also fit my rig - I have all the original bags with boat and the bag is also marked 150 genoa and with sail number so I am fairly confident it would serve your purposes.

The genoa has a blue cover along the edge. Where the sheets attach to the sail, that is where the cover is at it's widest. Along the trailing edge (the one that goes from the sheets up to top of mast, that dimension is 18". That was measured at the apex of where the cover along the trailing edge meets the cover along the bottom edge. At that apex, the bottom edge cover is 9" wide.

Hope that helps and is clear enough to understand.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/04/2006 : 08:48:46

By the way - I have a tall rig.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/04/2006 : 08:56:02

Reading my post, it may still not be clear - The apex where I took the measurements was not along the bottom of the sail, it was 9" up from the bottom at the point where both covers joined. I did that since below that point, the covers along both edges completely cover the sail.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 02/04/2006 : 09:54:51

Thanks for your response, but I'm actually talking about a cover that will fasten around the furler and sail and get hoisted. in addition to the UV cover on the sail. I know it's overkill, but our UV cover is a nice white and new now, we'd use the furler cover thru the week when the boat just sits and when trailering.
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/04/2006 : 11:59:45

Now I understsand. I saw some websites selling those...I think they call them "Socks" or "Sock covers".

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 07:49:49

Anyone out-there, still in the water and with a furled 150 or 135, that could measure the widest point where the sheets are wraped a few times.

Thanks,

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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 08:08:20

Kip...I too, have a white cover sewn on my furling genoa and although it is in great shape structurally, the whiteness has taken on a very dirty look, especially when in contrast with the clean white cloth on the sail itself...My next headsail will have a colored UV cover.

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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 11:04:31

Just realized you still have not gotten an answer to your question regarding diamter/width of the furling rig with a 135 or 150. My boat is in the water and I have a furling rig but unfortunately, i have the regular jib on the rig at present. i have a 150 Genoa at home and since buying the boat in the fall, have never had the Genoa on the furling rig yet. So...can't help you. The dimension with just the regular jib would probably not provide a good enough answer to extrapolate what it means with the Genoa.

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 11:12:50

the extrusion on my cdi furler measures 27'10"
the width of my cover is 9 1/2 folded flat

Edited by - mashedcat on 02/14/2006 11:15:50

Brian King
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 12:38:15

Kip, I have an '89 with the CDI furler and the 150 genny. I bought the sock cover from Catalina Direct and ended up sending it back. The sock is a great idea for trailering or storing maybe, but at the mooring it has way too much surface area and the wind whips it all over and it acts like a sail. If sock was smaller in diameter (tight to the rolled up sail) it would probably be OK. But the one CD sells is much too big even over a 150.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 16:15:09

Thanks for the responces!

Brian, thats good to know. All the more reason to try to get a good fit. Especially, because I was going to use twist fastners and could catch more air. I may need to use zippers. Currently, our docks are in a somewhat protected area, at least not out in the open, which cuts down on the wind some.
Dave, Are you saying you have a sock for your furler? If so, what's your expeiences with it?

Thanks,

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 17:37:56

my sock has zippers. so far im happy. easy on and off. i dont leave my sails furled when the mast is not stepped. i dont know if i understood you to mean that you would be leaving yours on the furler when you were trailering??

Edited by - mashedcat on 02/14/2006 17:40:04

Kip C
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 18:55:20

That was the thought, but not for winter storage. The main purpose would be while the boat is not in use. I was also thinking of going without the uv on the next head-sail, or sacrificial dacron as uv because I've started racing some. And with the inboard I need every nano knot I can get. Would I be splitting hairs going without the uv?

Don, you make a good point. I guess I'm keeping the next head-sail in mind and going without the uv. Don, your so close to Cleveland, you should come to natioals and crew or least have a beer with us .

Edited by - Kip C on 02/14/2006 20:27:26

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/14/2006 : 20:56:26

Kip,
Honestly, I think an inboard could successfully petition for a PHRF adjustment. With crew it puts a lot of weight in the stern and ads prop drag. We would be happy to provide the data point that our local inboard was at a disadvantage at last year's Nationals. It was well sailed and was not competitive. I have never seen a Catalina weight stated on the inboard version. Maybe you could petition to remove the table, cushions, hold boards, etc.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 02/24/2006 : 16:42:05

Frank, If you wouldn't mind getting that info for me, that would be great! I'm going to call Catalina to see if they can give me the weight differences.

Dave, Is your sock 9 1/2 in. the entire length or does it narrow at the end?
Thanks,

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 02/24/2006 : 20:44:19

Kip.. my sock is the same diameter the whole length.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 02/24/2006 : 21:14:05

Sorry Dave .. one last question. What are the length of the zippers?
Thanks again,

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 02/25/2006 : 20:08:54

Kip..3 zippers:2 @ 10' 1 @ 7'

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 02/25/2006 : 20:20:41

PS. If you decide to get one made, there is a guy on the e-bay who made mine. Al's custom covers in Nanaimo, B.C. I would advise against using him. You may have better luck than I did, but it took 5 months fo him to get my order correct, and that was after I had supplied really good measurements and instructions. Also, the work he provided me was minimum. I 've seen much better stuff from other guys on e-bay and had a guy I would have preferred to use and have used before. I just could get him to answer my e-mails, so suspect I didn't have a good one. He did work for me before and he's very good and he's prompt. His name is Robert Pyfrom I have 2 email addresses for him, one of them might work: neetra@comcast.net or neetra@ccis.net. Also, if you can't get Robert, you can probably find one of the ebay guys who will know exactly what you want and be able to provide it.

Edited by - mashedcat on 02/25/2006 20:28:47

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