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LTJGNoland
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Initially Posted - 02/06/2006 :  21:33:46  Show Profile
Looking for some help. The trim on the hatch leading from the cockpit to the cabin has split on one of the sides. The three slats are in fine shape, but the trim is beyond repair. Looking on the internet I'm not sure what I need to get to replace it. Does anyone know what I need? Also, how are those things attached? It looks like they are glued directly to the fiberglass. Anyway, going off on deployment very soon and I want to get this knocked out if possible before I leave. When I get back I'm going to make a few upgrades and then sail from San Diego to Catalina Island for a few days. Thanks for any advice!

Matt Noland

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/06/2006 :  21:41:10  Show Profile
You can order new ones from Catalina Direct.

The outside boards are screwed in from the inside which is coverd by the inside trim . It is a royal pain tho take it all off. But... once off , It will allow refinishing/repair very simple. The silicone holding mine on had a death grip.

Good luck.

Tom.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/06/2006 :  22:23:11  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
If you call catalinadirect.com they will tell you to take them off and send them in and they will have matches made. Not only did that channel shape evolve over the years it tends to be one of the more hand fitted of the items on the boat. If you can get them duplicated locally then go for it.
As for how they are attached... help me here guys, its both screws and glue isn't it?

Look familiar?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/06/2006 :  23:05:53  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Hey Lieutenant, I third this motion, give Catalina Direct a call!

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LTJGNoland
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  00:16:26  Show Profile
Thanks a lot! I'll give them a call tomorrow. You guys are great.

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  00:35:22  Show Profile
Hey Matt. My boat, as well as Jim Baumgarts' and several others of the Mission Bay Fleet 7, is slipped at Marina Village Marina, L Dock. We've sailed many times down into San Diego Bay and will do so again sometime soon.
About your trip to the island...when will you be heading over? I've had it in mind to get a bunch of boats together and make the trip although my teaching job in Hemet keeps me away alot.
We have the week off from February 11 through 19 so will sail sometime then, probably during the week.
That teak molding is indeed a tough one to get off as others have stated. Good luck on that.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  01:00:26  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Matt N,

If you still have all the broken pieces, it would probably be easy and inexpensive to glue it back together with high quality epoxy. (That's what I did.) The glue lines will likely show, but these aren't new boats. That sort of thing just adds individuality and character!

-- Leon Sisson

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LTJGNoland
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  01:09:49  Show Profile
Gary and Susie,
I'm a naval officer on one of the Cruisers in SD (USS Mobile Bay CG 53) and will be heading off on deployment next month for quite some time. I will not have any time off between now and then to make any long transit as we are getting everything ready to go onboard the Warship. If you are just talking daysailing then I'd be up for most anything. I learned everything I know about sailing (which is to say..not very much) on Lasers and just sort of teaching myself on the C-25 and am having a great time. I've got the Navigation portion pretty well in hand though. I've just returned from Catalina yesterday on a drinking/scouting trip and am really excited about it. When we get back I'll be able to take plenty of leave, and would love some company for the transit. The timeframe would be around August to early September. I don't know how that sounds to you, but please let me know. At any rate I'd enjoy meeting you guys sometime and visiting you in Mission Bay. My boat is moored at the ASW base (U.S. Navy Sailing Center) by the airport and across from North Island. Do you know where I mean? You can get in touch with me here or at my address: bombbaydoor@hotmail.com, or noland@mobile-bay.navy.mil. I'd love to hear from you. Take care!

LT Matt Noland
San Diego, CA

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  02:40:54  Show Profile
Frank,
The boards are caulked on which is as good as any glue I have ever used. The inside boards cover the screws that hold the outer boards on. It is the inside onse that are the hardest to remove as they have 2 surfaces. I was barely able to remove them without breaking the wood.

Patience is the word if you want to preserve them.

Tom.

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Justin
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  08:20:24  Show Profile  Visit Justin's Homepage
My trim had splits in the top of each vertical slat. I ended up using some Elmer's Ulitmate Glue Polyurethane, which I think is the same as Gorilla Glue. I tried to remove it, but the sealant seemed like glue and I didn't want to risk breaking anything. So, I'm going to leave it on the boat, sand it, and put on 4 coats of Wood-Pro. It may not look new, but it will look so much better. You can see the crack in this photo and once I finish it, it will look like the slat boards.
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ct95949
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  09:15:07  Show Profile
I fixed a break in my large hatch board with epoxy.Looks good,rock solid,inexpensive.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  09:33:53  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LTJGNoland</i>
<br />I'm a naval officer on one of the Cruisers in SD (USS Mobile Bay CG 53) and will be heading off on deployment next month for quite some time.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

USS Mobile Bay CG-53!!!...Well, how ya doin', shipmate!?! ...Not only did I spend three years aboard the USS Mobile Bay CG-53, I'm also a plankowner on that fine ship. I left it just before she changed homeports from Mayport, Florida to Yokasuka, Japan. How is the old girl?

Well anyway, Matt, have a good cruise shipmate and...

<font color="navy"><font color="blue"><font size="4"><i>Full Speed Ahead! </i></font id="size4"></font id="blue"></font id="navy">




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LTJGNoland
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  10:40:41  Show Profile
Well what a small world! Mobile Bay is doing fine....the crew is great, the Captain is great and the ship is in good shape. She is my second ship and I am really having a great time onboard. So what did you do onboard? I am the FPO/ATO and VBSS Boarding officer. I also sit up front in CIC as the Air Defense guy for the strike group. It is a lot more fun than the frigate I came off of. I was the Electrical/Aux. officer which is an uphill battle on those FFGs. Plus San Diego is a lot nicer than Pascagoula! So if you make your way to SD anytime soon then get in touch and I'll take you onboard and show you around. Take care!

LT Matt Noland
San Diego, CA

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  12:16:27  Show Profile
Matt...I was an FC1 in CF division with an Aegis FCS/ORTS NEC. I stood countless watches at the MSS console in the back corner of CIC. With you sitting in front at the big screens in CIC(are you the FAAWC?), I guess you'd be the one to authorize me to disable the fire inhibit switches on the missile launchers or to switch the CIWS to full Air Ready! Ahh! the good ol' days!

As for San Diego being nicer than Pascagoula, although I've never been to San Diego, having spent waaaay to much time before, during, and after commissioning in Pascagoula(I even went back a few times as a civilian while working for a Defense contractor out of NSWC, Dahlgren, VA.), I would have to guess SD is a little more appealing.

If I'm ever out your way in San Diego, I'll absolutely take you up on your offer for a tour of the old gal! Thanks.

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LTJGNoland
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  13:17:18  Show Profile
Amazing! Yes I stand FAAWC and finished Aegis TAO school in Dahlgren VA. I didn't care for Dahlgren too much...nothing much to do but D.C. wasn't too far away and the stuff they teach is pretty intense.
We just finished our training cycle about a two months ago and have gotten underway pretty regularly for sustainment training with the Carrier and the other shooters. It has been hectic but I've learned a helluva lot in a very short time and am actually looking forward to deployment...you know how it is...just the crew...no more ATG, no more contractors..just the ship and the mission. You actually get a chance to settle into the routine and relax! Of course I'll be just as ready to get back home....the grass is always greener on the other side of course. Should hit some pretty good ports hopefully. Take care...

LT Matt Noland
San Diego,CA

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  13:49:54  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LTJGNoland</i>
<br />...Should hit some pretty good ports hopefully.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Just stay out of Yemen--they let those Cole bombers "escape"!

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dblitz
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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  16:55:15  Show Profile
I also had a split in my hatch trim and was able to remove it after removing the L shaped interior trim.
My trim piece had one screw coming UP from underneath the hatch step on the outside.
So if you remove all the screws inside and it doesn't come off be careful with this last screw or you'll split the piece on the lower end.
After washing with Starbrite Teak Cleaner, I glued with Gorilla glue and think it's as good as new.
Have fun.

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RickStevens
1st Mate

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Response Posted - 02/07/2006 :  17:09:44  Show Profile
Cruiser sailors? You guys should've been on bird farms! In my days back on the "Big E" (USS Enterprise) we had bowling alleys, swimming pools, and dance halls. And that was just on the hangar deck!


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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 :  01:27:20  Show Profile
Navy????? I am an Orion Crewman who keeps a watchfull eye over the Fleet and the Beer in the fridge! Go Navy!!!!

Tom. P-3 Flight Engineer.

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RickStevens
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 :  12:36:57  Show Profile
I used to work with you Orion brown-shoe types from the Big E's TSC and later on when I was at 3rd Fleet's TSC in Pearl. You guys definitely have more fun than us old black shoe types.

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