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panhead1948
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Initially Posted - 03/27/2006 :  13:23:59  Show Profile
Went down to the boat yesterday anf will probably uncover it next week. Has anyone set up their rig using a tension guage and if so what kind of numbers did you have. I have a Loose tension guage and I think my forestay needs to be tighter. Any help would be appreciated.
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djn
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  13:35:35  Show Profile
Hi Panhead, I have a friend that is bringing one over next weekend but I have not used one yet. On an off topic, I just yesterday sold my 1956 Panhead. Sad day, but it had to go. Cheers.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  13:54:44  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
There are now at least 3 Loos units. You will need to be specific as you discuss your friend's. Bottom line is a straight stick and as hard as you prefer them.
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  17:12:47  Show Profile
Kevin - how tight or loose you tune your rig depends on several parameters: are you a cruiser or a racer? do you have stock Catalina sails or modern custom ones? Some headsails are designed to be flown with a lot of forestay sag.
Frank has his rig as tight as a drumhead because he sails on a lake where it blows like stink 99% of the time. I sail in a much more peaceful environment and my rig is as loose as can be because I'm a hard-core racer.
In other words "different strokes for different folks".
BTW, you don't need 2 Loos guages to tune. The smallest one will fit on all the shrouds and you do not need to convert the front numbers to pounds of tension. Use just the front and balance both sides of the rig after making sure that the mast is straight from side to side and from fore to aft.
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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  17:42:19  Show Profile
Bill Holcomb's "Mast Tuning Tips" in the Technical Tips section provides an excellent narrative on how to approach your rig tension. It would help if you had at least the forestay tensioned properly but the premise is there is no "one set way" but a logical procession.
Derek, I would differ with you regarding one Loos gauge fits all. I have an old set of two gauges and the smaller will not fit the fore or back stay. I believe they are 1/32" to thick. This may have been corrected on the newer model.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  17:58:26  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
As an added note, I've approached at least 3 riggers to put together a tuning guide for our boat. We'll see what comes of it.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  18:45:47  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Duane Wolff</i>
<br />As an added note, I've approached at least 3 riggers to put together a tuning guide for our boat. We'll see what comes of it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> The problem with that is, you'd need one set of instructions for boats with adjustable backstays and another one for boats without adjustable backstays, and both would have to include alternative instructions for tuning with or without a Loos gauge. The two rigs with different backstays have to be tuned completely differently. I wrote instructions for tuning C25s with both types of rig and they can be found on the last page of my article titled "Racing to Win" in the racing tips section of this website.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 :  21:01:28  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I use the larger cheap one. I figured it was better to fit the primary stays and interpolate the smaller shrouds. I have not used one of the "professional" Loos gauges so I do not know if it handles all sizes or not.
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