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gnorgan
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Initially Posted - 05/25/2002 :  02:04:15  Show Profile
I've been partially furling my 150 genny in the strong winds we're having out west. I doesn't look all the great and the luff is WAY to fat to be efficient.
Question: Does anyone use a 110 furling jib? I just think if I had a 110 furling jib that I would be sailing even better by not having to furl in heavy wind. The idea is to just hoist the 110 and pull it all the way out and then reef the main.
Thoughts / ideas on this?
Also, I just read a short piece in the Foredeck Catalog by the Ullman people that said the sailcloth of a 150 would get stretched by the force of 25 mph winds. I hate to have to furl a 150 just to go sailing so am thinking of buying a furling 110
Gary
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wmkoines
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Response Posted - 05/26/2002 :  08:11:07  Show Profile
We have a tall C25 and when we had a hank-on 150 we always changed over to our 110 in heavy winds.

So when we added our roller furler we split the differance and got a 130.
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 05/26/2002 :  10:44:52  Show Profile
Hi Gary,

Instead of a 110 - especially if you are going to switch back to the 150 for light breezes - you might consider a 100% Blade jib. The blade is a full hoist sail like the 150 so you get a full luff length for lift to windward, but a smaller sail for stronger breezes.

I bought one made of 7.5 oz dacron about 6 years ago and have seldom used the 110 since.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839
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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 05/27/2002 :  17:38:14  Show Profile
Bill, I like this idea of the blade jib. What is the tall rig size dimensions of the blade 100% jib? I will check Minnie's Marine for a good, used one and compare to new and make a choice ASAP.
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Gary

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Mike Vaccaro
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Response Posted - 05/27/2002 :  21:15:58  Show Profile
Gary,

We have a 110 furling jib, but only because we found the sail onboard when we bought the boat! It's the original jib that came with the boat when new (1984), but had been stored and never used--I suspect because the jib was not full hoist. We're not sure, but suspect that to save money, Catalina only made one jib designed to fit a standard or tall rig. Our boat has been equipped with roller furling since Harken introduced their first model.

Since the sail was in such great shape, we sent it to a loft to have the hanks removed and a luff tape added. Since the cost was only about 100 bucks (also included a pendant), we figured that it would be a cost effective method to buy a fairly capable small sail. The sail works fine, although more hoist would be desirable. Our primary headsail is a 155% Genny, and we don't use the small sail much here in Florida.

Thus, I concur with Bill that if it's a heavy air sail you're after, you might consider a blade with adequate luff to allow a full hoist, which will help on a beat. If, however, you come across a 110 at the right price, having it modified for a headfoil isn't cost prohibitive.

Best of Luck,

Mike Vaccaro on the "Swoose"
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Terry Annis
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Response Posted - 05/28/2002 :  10:18:31  Show Profile  Visit Terry Annis's Homepage
This year I've changed to the 110 on my furler, and I'm very encouraged, The wife likes it a lot better also, more control and less
heel, sometimes it is a little slower but not really noticable. Another plus is being able to see other traffic, and thats good here
on the Columbia, lots of traffic.

Terry "LEMATIKE" #789
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 05/28/2002 :  10:35:56  Show Profile
Hey Gary,

Since different skippers fiddle with sail sizes all the time, there's no ONE size for a 100% sail. The foot of a 100% Blade though should be around 10'6" and the luff should be pretty close to 31'0" (maybe 30' to allow for tack shackles and headboard shackles, etc.). The leach measurement will depend upon how high you want the clew corner - both for vision forward, AND for better rolling on your furler.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839
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Response Posted - 05/28/2002 :  13:14:18  Show Profile
We have a 110 jib on CDI furler which I have been very happy with; 4.5 kts. yesterday in a 15mph+ breeze. Since using a furler to reef your headsail damages it, the 110 is very handy to have. The blade sounds interesting, too...
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Response Posted - 05/28/2002 :  15:33:52  Show Profile
I also prefer the 110 over the 150. Much easier to handle and the boat sails as good or better in normal sailing weather (15-20 knts) The 100 sounds very interesting also. The thing to remember is that a general purpose (heavy weight) 150 is not that much better in light winds anyway.
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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 05/29/2002 :  00:51:16  Show Profile
Thanks, everybody <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> I now have some great advice and can begin the process of finding a smaller sail. This forum is the best at getting answers...and very quickly, too!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Hello, Terry. My family will be vacationing up your way at the beginning of July. Portland and the Columbia River Gorge and will check out Mt. St. Helens (hope it doesn't get active. We were there 8 months after it exploded but it rained all the time so we never saw the mountain, etc.) My wife hopes we'll see it this time. We'll be traveling in our Airstream (a 25 footer also) but sometime in the future we'd like to haul the boat up, too. Maybe retirement time in 6 to 8 years.
Thanks, again.
Gary Norgan
Hemet, CA

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