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Manitou
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Initially Posted - 05/26/2002 : 11:42:03

I have a '79 C25 and am looking to add a topping lift, a 3:1 boom vang, and lazy jacks. From what I have read here in other topics I think I will opt to drop the mast for the high work and likely replace some turnbuckles and/or deck fittings while it is down. My main question is what is the best way to fix the vang to the mast. I am new the C25 and only moderately experienced in sailing at all. I am confused by the sliding gooseneck, the one set screw below that and the sliding cleat at the bottom. If anyone could explain the purpose of this design and the proper adjustment/usage I would appreciate it. Also, if anyone has done any of this work and has any advice or lessons learned I would really appreciate that as well.
Jim

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Steve Kostanich
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Response Posted - 05/26/2002 : 12:18:58

The "screw" that is in the sail groove in the mast below the gooseneck is a stop for the goose neck when you lower the main. It keeps the boom from falling too low near the cabin top. In addition the screw provides a stop for the downhaul to pull the goose neck against when the main is up. The hole in the bottom of the gooseneck is for attaching a downhaul line. That cleat below the screw to for tying off the downhaul. The downhaul can do two things; adjust the tension on the luff of the main, or prevent the boom from being pulled up with the main when that sail is raised.
There are several ways to attach a vang to the boom. Different "hounds" and "bails" are available at yacht hardware suppliers. Talk to a person in one of these businesses, and they should pretty well be able to set you up.

Steve Kostanich C-25 Equinox 1119 sk-sr

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Manitou
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Response Posted - 06/01/2002 : 20:21:33

Steve,
Thanks for the information. There was no downhaul rigged when I bought the boat so it was not clear what it was all for. The thing that confused me is that the cleat slides up to the fixed screw (obviously by design). Why would it not be fixed if it is used to tie of the downhaul? Also, this brings up a new question. What is the purpose of having the boom/gooseneck slide up and down? Is it just to provide the movement for the downhaul to tension/slack the luff once the main is set? I am obvously new to sailing and this has been a learning boat for me. I appreciate your time and answers. Jim

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 06/02/2002 : 09:04:11

Hi Jim,

After breaking the boom vang attachment hound on the lower mast in strong winds one day, I changed the mast attachment to a stainless steel boom bail. Using the bolt that holds the mast on the mast step to secure the bail works just right. System has been in place since '85.

Here's a photo of the setup from the Tech Tips section.
http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/snkvang.html

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Manitou
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Response Posted - 06/03/2002 : 13:06:21

Bill,
Excellent idea. I was just at WM and trying to find something that would work. I was thinking of mounting a curved base padeye to the base of the mast, but I like your idea much better! Thanks again.
Jim

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/03/2002 : 13:24:39

The Cleat for the downhaul is supposed to be stationary. If yours moves, it defeats the purpose.

I don't use that cleat, instead, I rigged an old main-sheet fiddle block.

dw

Duane Wolff
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 06/03/2002 : 13:35:36

My downhaul cleat has two phillips head screws set in it. When I tighten the screws, it holds the cleat in the track.

Brooke

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/03/2002 : 23:01:50

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My downhaul cleat has two phillips head screws set in it. When I tighten the screws, it holds the cleat in the track.
Brooke
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Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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