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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Initially Posted - 04/10/2006 : 11:10:37

Our Keel Boat Racing Squadron (Wed nite racing) site is getting better all the time.

http://kbrs.org/

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 12:51:19

Wow....you guys don't mess around. I feel sorry for the little boat in the middle on your home page photo sequence...maybe I identify with him. :-)

Steve

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 14:37:24

umm, isn't it bad manners to squish someone to leeward?

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djn
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 15:18:31

Looks like a bunch of drunk marines playing football... ;>)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 15:27:20

Frank,...Do you know how the boats in the opening sequence made out?

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 16:56:41

As a newbie racer, this is what I'm afraid of....being the guy in the middle.

I recently read Steve Milby's racing tips on the forum and I plan on following his suggestion that a newbie follow the pack and stay out of the way.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 17:10:16

Just put your whisker pole through the guy's jib on the starboard side and let him protest.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 18:53:45

Rubbin's Racing - Harry (played by bobby duvall in days of thunder)
3 way contact was made - and from what I can tell the guy to windward is Guilty of fouling both boats. Since it looks like contact was made, depending on the SI's a 720 probably won't cut it for exhoneration. If contact wasn't made, he gets the benefit of one 720 for both fouls. Based on the picture angle I am guessing he was well overstood, and his reach angle down to the mark had the sails obstruct his view. That's just plain UGLY

Around here settling that out of court would cost a lot of rum

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 19:02:14

That sort of childishness is exactly why I have no interest in racing. If I want to prove myself I can try sailing beyond my proven abilities.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 19:02:32

"newbie racer, this is what I'm afraid of...."

Just push in the clutch and hit the brakes.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 19:57:00

there is hardly anything childish about racing a yacht.

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 20:01:30

"That sort of childishness is exactly why I have no interest in racing. If I want to prove myself I can try sailing beyond my proven abilities."

You're kidding, right?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 20:54:13

I hope so. As a racer I suck, I pretty much have always sucked but would not trade the moments of Bravado, Respect, Intellect, and Camaraderie that come from tight racing. The stories that come from close racing are some of the strongest lures of racing. As for this situation; close racing, A boat coming in off a flyer, poor visibility (do to failure to post a lookout), A barging boat at the pin, (possibly legal due to overlap). A situation that is one boat beyond the norm, but any one of the issues involved here are not unknown to any of us. They are more fun to watch but also damn exciting to be in.
The point of the thread was to share the effort our Wed nite racer are putting out to provide for weekly racing at our club.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/10/2006 : 21:43:20

So my assessment was pretty accurate then....

Did the S2 retire, pay off in liquor or force legal proceedings...and was everyone okay?

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 02:44:44

Whoa ... I didn't really mean to step on toes, but if I did so I guess I'll dance
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 there is hardly anything childish about racing a yacht.
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This was from the plaque above the race commitee chairman's desk, right? Pardon me, but to the casual observer, everything about it looks childish.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by takokichi
 You're kidding, right?
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Not in the least. Sorry if you think setting out into unknown territory for several days is less challenging than sailing 'round known buoys - I disagree. Stay with your buoys - even if they are off the challenging coast of Maine.

This being said, let me guess ... the far leeward boat fell off (as in pics?), and the larger windward boat bumped the smaller with little damage ... 'cept for all the cursing. It is an interesting photo sequence.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 Looks like a bunch of drunk marines playing football... ;>)
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Luv that ... call it what it is.

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 07:45:45

"Not in the least. Sorry if you think setting out into unknown territory for several days is less challenging than sailing 'round known buoys - I disagree. Stay with your buoys - even if they are off the challenging coast of Maine."

Waterboy - I'm not denigrating voyaging in your boat, or minimizing the difficulties. I sailed many thousands of miles on my C25, much of it solo. There are others with more miles on Catalina 25's around here, but not many. And I don't suggest that racing around the buoys is more (or less) challenging - its simply a different game you can play with a boat. But childish? That's just name calling.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 08:24:05

Boys! Boys!!!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 09:37:52

I believe this is two S2 7.9s pinching out a Capri 25. If you notice the topography in the background and have ever been to Kansas you will realize it is not from our lake. Hell to a Kansan those are mountains on the shore line. The background seems to have more S2s in it. My guess is this is Great Lakes Racing, we just think the animated GIF rocks so we use it. And Yes, I am willing to bet the weather boat owed someone an apology.
This is me in my Merit long ago, getting ready to round and launch. The Merit would point as high as any boat I have ever seen. I am trying to remember the specifics of this photo and I think we are about to reach to the gybe mark which means I probably climbed over these guys after the rounding. My tri-radial was a new technology then and much flatter than most other chutes I raced against. (sorry for the size but it is a nice photo. This was at Ft Gibson in Oklahoma. )

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 10:15:41

Here are the discrete photos of the GIF, the weather boat does not seem to be coming in off a flyer! The crew body language is telling.

Edited by - Frank Hopper on 04/11/2006 10:16:59

dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 10:22:55

The S.2 appears to have an "MN" in their bow number (Minnesota).

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 10:33:00

Looks like a KA to me. Note that not all states preface the first two letters with a state abbreviation either.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 10:44:57

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 Looks like a KA to me. Note that not all states preface the first two letters with a state abbreviation either.
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I don't know...it sure looks like MN to me. With Frank saying the topography is definitely not Kansas, I would think that the letters are not KA.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 11:25:51

mn-45 36-zn

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:23:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 My guess is this is Great Lakes Racing<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It looks like an inland lake to me--seas too small, no beach, houses too close to shore for a Great Lake. Could be Minnetonka. The Wayzata Yacht Club there has an S2 7.9 fleet.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:34:12

oops wrong pic - I was looking at Franks post at 9:37...

dw

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:59:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">"newbie racer, this is what I'm afraid of...."

Just push in the clutch and hit the brakes.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
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Just when I think I'm getting a handle on sailing a C25 you guys learn me that I don't know nuthin'. Is someone going to tell me where the clutch is or do I have to go thru all the tech stuff again.

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