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Larry
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Initially Posted - 04/20/2006 : 11:40:12

I've sanded down my teak and now have to finish and reinstall.
Two question: 1) I was going to use cetol based on the posts on this site however, a friend has recomended Epithane. Has anyone used this?

2) Bedding compound. Has anyone used Dolfinite? Suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Larry
"Kate Caroline" 1985
Great South Bay, Long Island, NY

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HudsonM1
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 12:58:29

Hi Larry.
I'm in the middle of refinishing my teak too. After reading, researching and talking to many folks about what finish to use (dozens of different opinions), I chose Waterlox. No one disagrees that Cetol was a great choice in terms of durability, ease of use and maintenance, but I simply don't like the look as much as Waterlox, and keeping it looking good year after year sounds pretty similar (we shall see about that). In my opinion, Waterlox keeps the wood closer to it's natural color (instead of giving it an orange tint), you don't have to sand between coats and it in just 4 coats you get great finish (although I'll probably do 5 for good measure). And according to the manufacturer, after the initial application, it just needs one coat of the Marine Gloss Finish every year or two to keep it looking new. This is my first time using it, but I like it so far. I hope the promises of longevity hold true.
Hudson

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Downbucket
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 14:55:13

Hi Larry:

I too have removed and sanded all of the teak trim (except for a couple of pieces that wouldn't budge which I will sand and finish on the boat.) After reading many of the related archived posts, I've decided to use Cetol Light and 3M 4200 adhesive.

Good luck.

Will

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 15:07:31

I wouldn't use 4200....I'd actually steer you away from any polysulfides. The adhesive properties are going to make that stuff tougher to remove the next time you need to sand your teak. I also had a peice split on me upon removal due to adhesive caulk.

Life-seal's boat caulk would be my recomendation....(and believe me I used to be a 4200 5200 advocate....and then I owned the boat 3 years longer than planned)

dw

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 15:27:31

Will (and other teak slaves),<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I've decided to use Cetol Light and 3M 4200 adhesive.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I usually try to avoid any involvement in teak refinishing discussions.

However, I just gotta say reattaching exterior teak with 3M 4200 adhesive sounds like overkill (even by my standards

). Are you sure you'll be able to get it back off when the wood inevitably needs refinishing again?

And speaking of 'gluing' exterior teak to a C-25, the only stock pieces I can think of that need bedding at all are the cabin top handrails and maybe a little goo around the screw holes for the hatch slide rails. (OK, maybe cockpit coaming pocket trim rings, if they aren't screwed on.) Using sealant on the companionway frame seems sort of pointless when you consider how weather tight the installed drop boards aren't.

Oh, and while I'm sticking my nose into this controversial topic, I just recently tried Cetol 'Gloss' or something like that -- not the older Cetol 'Marine' I think it is which has a reputation of looking orange to the eye of a brightwork purist. (As you can guess, I'm not posting from home where I could go check can labels.) To my undiscerning eye, it looks much more like high gloss varnish than the older semi-gloss with the heavier pigment. (I can almost hear the fundamentalist sect of varnish worshippers grinding their teeth upon reading that statement!

)

-- Leon Sisson

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 15:29:54

By the way, Kellie and Jay from Waterlox are donating some product for the National Regatta.....

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 15:36:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Leon Sisson
 ...not the older Cetol 'Marine' I think it is which has a reputation of looking orange to the eye of a brightwork purist...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Some say "orange", I say "classic amber"!

I'm currently in the middle of my every other year touch up.

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HudsonM1
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 17:38:58

I considered using the Cetol Clear Gloss, but the manufacturer advises not to use it on bare wood, only over a couple coats of the pigmented stuff (of course, if I was their marketing consultant, that's what I'd advise them to put on the label too!)

Hudson

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 19:06:45

I plan on installing my teak with plumbers putty. Dolphinite does have my attention though.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 21:42:06

We've used Plumbers putty in quantity for the mast step on the racing boat, where we have to change out the wood blocks on the partners based on Wind conditions for the day. The putty is easier that a boot and seals tighter. However I'm not sure on the longevity of it in a nautical environment. It works great on sinks. I'd be interested to see the results.

dw

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 23:14:03

I pulled all my teak and did 3 coats of Cetol Light followed by 3 coats of the Clear. I personally like the amber tint and the fact that it lasts. Try that with any other product. Prove me wrong me and I'll convert.

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