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cat1951
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Initially Posted - 07/11/2006 : 09:43:00

I am in the process of designing an insert system to make up a comfortable bed out of the settees in the cabin. I have checked in the technical tips for the c-25 (I have a 1985 model.) and am finding those there are only for the dinette style. My question is this.
Is the starboard settee on the same level vertically as the port one? When I look at it, it looks like the starboard sets lower than the one on the port side. It could be because the deck is lower on the starboard side as it runs into the head area, and maybe just an optical illusion.
I can always get a level, and take it up to the lake to check, but wanted to finalize the design without driving the hour to the lake. Although that sounds like a better idea.

Mike
Grand Lake, OK
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In my opinion 75% of the earth is water for a reason. That's why I sail.

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Brian King
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Response Posted - 07/11/2006 : 12:19:21

I constructed an athwartships bed this past year for my traditional interior '89. It is about 3/4 (or more) of the length of the port settee and easily accomodates 2 normal sized sleeping bags. It's basically 4 pieces of 1/2" plywood - 2 pieces are hinged at the center along the centerline of the boat bow to stern with removable 1" dowel legs. It's hard to explain and I should really take some pics. In short it works great (for us) but there are numerous ways to accomplish your desire. And on my boat the settee's are the same height port and starboard.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 07/11/2006 : 14:09:51

I think I understand your design and the dowel legs. I am trying to span the distance without center support. It may not be possible, but it will depend on how I stiffen the center section of the span. I am planning to insert 2 pieces of "L" shaped aluminum behind the teak rails that hold the cushion bottoms in place. The bottom of the L will stick out far enough to have the planking supported on the ends. I am trying to make it so that the planking can be stored easily and make sure that the center of the planks supports the weight. I have heard that Frank Hopper may have done something similar. Frank..."are you out there" and care to comment?

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Trust Me
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Response Posted - 07/11/2006 : 15:09:28

Mike: I also have a 1985 and installed a ledge board on the port side (thru bolted) and metal u-shaped channel piece on starboard under edge of bench seat to slide 4 pieces of wood into that are stairway step boards (for strength).
Ron

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 07/12/2006 : 08:15:11

Ron,
Thanks for the tip on the step boards. I did hear from Frank offline and he indicated that he had used the table as part of the solution. I hadn't even considered using it, but it would save some space that all new planking would require. In fact, I am planning to rebuild the table this winter using hardwood. I just can't get past all of the teak in the cabin and then looking at a formica table. By rebuilding the table to the right length, I think I can use it as part of the bed support.

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Response Posted - 07/13/2006 : 09:28:16

Mike, it sounds like you're on the same track as me. I through bolted a small piece of oak 3/4" x 3/4" under the teak that keeps the cushions in place and my bedboards rest on the oak trim. I went with the 1/2" hinged plywood and the 2 pieces that each fold in half fit in the storage area under the aft berth. It's a tight fit getting them stored but they do go in there along with the dowel legs. I also use the settee back cushions in the middle of the bed running in the direction from bow to stern of the boat. They hang over the sides of the bed but work just fine. Again, there are a million ways to do this project. If you want any further info email me at brian.king@us.ngrid.com Good luck Mike!

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 07/13/2006 : 10:58:48

Thanks Brian,
I will let you know if I need assistance. I am hoping to post pictures with the modifications when I am finished. Although it will be a while since I am doing the mods during the cold months. I like the idea of using wood for the supports rather than aluminum. Mostly for appearance above all else. I have also considered the idea of having cockpit cushions made that would fit the opening across between the settee's, but have to make sure of the measurements before doing so. My first thought would be to make more than 1 cushion for each of the port and starboard sides of the cockpit. (Probably 4) and then using the shorter pieces or the right size pieces for the fill in.

Will let you know.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/13/2006 : 16:46:30

aero Queen

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 07/14/2006 : 07:57:12

Now that's an idea I didn't consider. Which of the aero beds did you elect to use? And if inflating is there a 12v pump that is available.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/14/2006 : 09:37:14

I use a cheap Coleman mattress and a vacuum that blows, (I have a 12 volt pump too but I live in a 110 volt world) but the aero is the king of the genre.

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