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esailor
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Initially Posted - 08/08/2006 :  17:52:13  Show Profile
Why don't you like rings for keepers in the shroud pins.

These are all we have ever used on other boats I have sailed. We secure them with several wraps of rigging tape. The pins I have looked at are no thicker than the rings combined thickness and isn't most of the load on the pin? If you guys feel pins are more appropriate I will change out the rings I used as that was all I had at the time.

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Pete Hagar
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Indian Lake
2770 82/SR/SK/9.9 evinrude

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/08/2006 :  18:26:22  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
All of the load is on the pin, none should be on the ring. I am on your side - everything I've been on from a Bennetau 42.7 through a j22 has used rings


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John V.
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Response Posted - 08/08/2006 :  19:43:21  Show Profile  Visit John V.'s Homepage
Rigging and un-rigging.....takes time....cotter pins require tools and rings do not.

I like the rings.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/08/2006 :  21:13:47  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
It would seem I stand alone on this pontification... the purpose of the ring is easy in, easy out, by definition that is risky on critical rigging. If properly taped they should be ok. I am surprised more of you don't fell the way I do. I obviously must yield to the collective wisdom.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/08/2006 :  21:20:10  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Frank -

Its easy in easy out if you have opposeable (sp) thumbs. If properly applied I think they have less chance of coming out than a pin. You do need to have a good quality ring that doubles over on itself.

If anyone is using the rings on the open style turnbuckles, be sure to go through the screw and one side of the turnbuckle. Not just the screw alone.




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esailor
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Response Posted - 08/08/2006 :  22:28:22  Show Profile
I replaced a few of the bent pins, sort of a modified safety pin,with rings as the pins looked like a jib sheet could open them and pull them out. At any rate rigging tape is A MUST for these rigging points protecting feet, sails and rings. A word on rigging tape, use the self amalgamting tape with no adhesive it is very clean and is easily removed. To remove it just cut the tape across the wraps and it pulls off cleanly.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/08/2006 :  22:39:04  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I don't like the amalgamating tape. It attracts dirt, over time is stickier to remove than the tape and is getting pretty darn pricey.

We used to use whatever color electrical tape was available at home depot. That is all the white stuff was anyway from the evil empire.

Two years ago we switched to the plastic tube style shroud protectors. Since we change settings frequently it requires less crap to remove or replace.

dw

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