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Nautiduck
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Initially Posted - 08/30/2006 : 15:02:46

Hello all. I am a C22 owner looking to buy a C250. I have researched this site re the WB vs WK issue and feel well informed about it. Though we sail primarily in a lake we do plan to start trailering the several hundred miles to the Puget Sound and, being both 55, I'm leaning to the WB for ease of launching/retrieving and towing (1999 GMC Yukon). But, one of the issues I read about is that it is more difficult to access the aft berth on the WB model. Photos I see of the boat I may buy make that area seem very accessible. Is the photo misleading? What is the difference in inches? Thanks. One of the things I will like about a 250 is participating in this group. You all seem well informed and helpful.

We cannot direct the winds but we can adjust our sails.

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ceryes
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 15:44:35

I personally prefer to sleep in the V-berth as you get better ventalation with the front hatch open. I really don't have any problem getting into the aft berth but I am not a big guy.
Paul

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 23:54:13

We have a Water Ballast and we use the V-berth.

The Catalina website has some good interior photos of the winged-keel. --> [url="http://www.catalinayachts.com/yachts.cfm?act=model&id=17&link=photos"]Catalina[/url]
I think the aft berth has about the same headroom.
The winged-keel has more cabin headroom, but notice the step up for the aft berth.

Here's some interesting points.

The winged-keel has swing-up stairs.
The water-ballast has fixed stairs and centerboard cable behind it.

The water-ballast has a removable table.
The winged-keel has a fixed table.
Most people don't like either table because it's too big.

Here's some previous posts you might be interested in.
[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=12143"]Water Ballast Stairs[/url]

[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13172"]Need advice on Winged Keel vs CB[/url]
There's a good link from Arlyn Stewart

[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=11773"]Catalina 250 vs. Hunter 25[/url]
The Hunter 25 has less aft berth headroom than the Catalina 250

We trailer our boat and I'm glad we got the water-ballast.
Russ #793

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 07:06:59

We also sleep in the V berth. It has much better ventilation and is easier to access once the large table is removed. The layout allows sleeping in either direction though I prefer head to bow with my feet extending onto the settee.

The one disadvantage is if the boat is suffering a swell, movement is more pronounced in the V berth. The 250 will also hunt back and forth on her anchor rode and when swinging beam to the swell, will throw the V berth occupant to the hull sides making it impossible to sleep. Fortunatly, this can be stopped by using an anchor rode bridle combined with a riding sail.

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bear
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 08:07:54

I am 6'0 tall and 63, I have slept in the aft berth most of the time in the last 5 years. Getting in and out is a process only the occupant can develop. I sleep fore-aft generally in a sleeping bag. Entry is best done on the starboard side because the paneling for the
for the bathroom takes space away on the port side. You do hear wave slap against the transom and aft part of the boat, but do get used to it. Since we do have electricity at our slip we use a fan for circulation.

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Bill Arden
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 08:54:47

A small correction: On our 2006 250 winged-keel, the table <b>is</b> removable. The hatch cover beneath the V-berth is shaped so that the table fits there, and the (split) hatch covers go on top of it. We still have to stow the pedestal, but that's just a piece of tubing that can go anywhere.

[quote]<i>Originally posted by Russ.Johnson</i>

Here's some interesting points.

The water-ballast has a removable table.
The winged-keel has a fixed table.
Most people don't like either table because it's too big.

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 11:14:11

Bill,
Thanks for the correction.
Russ (#793)

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 20:58:17

I prefer the aft berth, plenty of room to move around. The only problem is ventilation back there. However I think I have a fix for that, I just ordered two opening ports to install in the aft berth which (I hope) will allow more air movement.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 09/01/2006 : 09:06:49

I have a wing keel, and I *am* a big guy (6' 4"). One of the interior differences between WK and the Hunter 25 that swayed us to the C250WK was the ladder being able to swing in and out. I find it MUCH easier to get into the aft berth by swinging the stairs up and hanging them on a bungie.

Launching a WK (with a rope and 5th wheel/spare tire carrier) is very easy, but you DO need deep ramps or high tide.

I think you need to sail both and decide which you like. Each sailor will put different weights on different aspects and come to their own conclusion.

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moserd
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Response Posted - 09/01/2006 : 11:52:39

I have also considered adding port ventilation in the aft berth area. How about pictures etc when you do it?

Thanks,

Don

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 09/01/2006 : 13:01:06

Thanks for all the replies. The Admiral and I sat down last night and deliberated. We have decided to go for a C250 Wing Keel primarily due to the increased cabin headroom. We feel that when it comes time to trailer we will be OK. We have a fixed fin keel C22 now and are used to cable launching and retrieving, and we figure the C250 WK actually sits lower than the C22 fin. We have a GMC Yukon that is capable of towing the boat and trailer.

Both models of the C250 are very fine craft. We look forward to joining the community. We'll put a post on the Swap Meet forum but please keep your eyes out for us for a C250WK in good shape. We are in Eugene, Oregon but will travel to buy the right boat. Randy

kolbrp(at)hotmail.com

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 09/01/2006 : 17:02:46

Randy, Good luck searching. Don't forget if you find one and have questions we'll be right here!

Don,
I got the Ports in the mail today. Both Ports, including shipping cost me less that $140. I'll take a few pics during the install and post in another thread.

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