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'86 Yamaha 9.9 ?

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Doug
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Initially Posted - 06/23/2002 : 12:45:08

Got a line on a 1986 9.9 Yamaha XL shaft for Noeta. Anyone use one of these? I'm a little iffy on the electric start with no manual cord backing it up. I know it's about 25 lbs heavier than my old Honda 10, but I think I can deal with that. I'm more concerned with the long tiller hitting the transom and if I can tilt theprop out of the water.

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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allencl
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Response Posted - 06/23/2002 : 16:39:16

I have the '86 long shaft version and I love it.

On the pull cord:

There is a manual pull cord, you just have to remove the cowl (one lever) and the plastic flywheel cover (one thumbscrew), then wrap the supplied cord or any suitable line aroud the groove in the flywheel. I know this is not the same as a spring-loaded pull cord that's always at the ready, but at least in my case, the motor has never failed to start on the first touch of the starter button. But the cord is there as a back up if you have a battery problem / starter failure. I guess most sailboats I've been on rely primarily on an electric starter and their batteries for cranking up the auxillary, so this has never bothered me with our current setup.

On the fit to the transom:

I guess it will depend on the bracket you're using. I use the OMC bracket with a slight stand-off (see previous post http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1382 ) and it works really well. The motor tilts fully up without hitting the transom and when it's down in the operating position the control arm rests nicely on the aft coaming. I can post some pictures if you like.

Good luck on your decision making,

-Chris on "SPIRIT" C25 SR WK #5644

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Doug
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Response Posted - 06/23/2002 : 18:02:07

The tiller is long enough to come over the coaming then? I was worried about it hitting the back of the transom.

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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Response Posted - 06/23/2002 : 22:36:11

This is the best picture I can find at the moment- I'll try to take a better picture w/ digital camera tomorrow. You can just make out one of the two wedges that are mounted between the bracket and transom to achieve a slight offset. For some reason the engine control arm seems to be pointing straight up in this particular picture, but when it is angled forward as it usually is, the tip of the twist grip throttle rests on the aft coaming betweem the pulpit stanchion and the cam cleat for the traveler control line.

Hope that helps...

<img src="http://home.ptd.net/~allencl/pics/engine001.jpg" border=0>

-Chris on "SPIRIT" C25 SR WK #5644

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 06/24/2002 : 03:04:42

Doug: I had an 85, now a 2000 model. OMC (I think) bracket. With engine up, my prop BARELY drags a bit on starboard tack. Engine is on the port side. (Like yours, I think, right?)....These are strong engines; the earlier post describes how to remove the electric start mechanism; it's a breeze.

My tiller handle actually rests alongside the hull, just under the coaming. It is actually faster under power and balanced when it's offset a bit, so I would never LOCK it straight ahead, unless, of course you had a boat with the engine in the center of the transom behind a rudder/ not the C25. Good luck. BTW: The 85 model had a design flaw; the auto choke could stick, allowing raw gas to go down through the rings and "make oil" in the crankcase; in other words, it diluted it to no viscosity, and they'd burn up. Probably had it fixed by 86, but I would check the oil often....Smell the dipstick for any sign of gas. But it sure would have burnt up by now!!!!! (My 85 did TWICE in a year, and a buddy's did too, before they got it figured out. But, hey, I bought another one!

This last weekend on the Columbia, going around "Cape Horn" I was in Big waves, smashed together, that actually stopped a 43 Columbia in her tracks. Spray was going WAY over the spreaders. His wind speed showed gusts up to 40 and it was against a strong, 3+ knot tide on the nose. My Yamaha stayed in the water except for maybe 5 or 6 times, and it ran like a champ and kept me going, although I slowed way down. I'm telling you; I would not have felt as safe with any other OB on my C25

Gary B Encore! #685

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Response Posted - 06/26/2002 : 13:03:58

Doug,

Here are some additional pictures of our engine setup. I guess the control arm rests a little bit closer to the centerline than I was remembering- but you can see that it clears the aft coaming. Also, you can see a little more detail on our engine mount.

Have you made a decision on the Yamaha?

<img src="http://home.ptd.net/~allencl/pics/engine1.jpg" border=0>
<img src="http://home.ptd.net/~allencl/pics/engine2.jpg" border=0>

Cheers,

-Chris on "SPIRIT" C25 SR WK #5644

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