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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/05/2006 : 09:36:49

Thanks for that info Brooke. What an adventure and he has a book about his west to east crossing...hope my library has one.
Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936, PATCHOGUE, N.Y.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/05/2006 : 11:44:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveC25
 I had the opportunity to learn to sail on a Flicka back in the early eighties. It's an incredibly stout little boat... But alas, you won't win a race with one because she is a fat little thing, unless you're race involves surviving a storm in mid-ocean. :)
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You never know--the PHRF is about 300. You could end up with a trophy if you make it back to the clubhouse before the presentations are over.

(Actually, that probably isn't enough...)

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/05/2006 : 12:24:13

When my C25 was brand new, I sailed in company with a nearly new Flicka, and it's performance compared very favorably with my boat. I suspect Flickas are allowed that much handicap time because most Flicka owners don't race them very often, and don't prep them very well to race. As a result, when they race, their underwater surfaces aren't in a condition that allows them to perform as well as they are capable of doing. Also, their skippers are cruisers, not racers. Therefor, they aren't driving the boat as well as an experienced racer would. If a good racer prepped a Flicka well and raced it, I suspect it could easily sail better than its handicap and win some races. From what I've seen, they're capable of performing much better than a 300 handicap would suggest.

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 12/06/2006 : 22:27:35

A friend just bought a nautica 20. Does anyone know if this was designed to be a blue water boat?

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 12/06/2006 : 22:46:42

When on HMS Ark Royal, an aircraft carrier, we met up with a sailboat about 60' in the middle of the atlantic..

I think you have to be just short of nuts to go out in those waves!

My worst trip on an RN Ship was south east of Africa when the aircraft carrier I was on went through a hurricane. The lower edge of the bow came out of the water on the up swing and the flat top burried on the down stroke. My bunk was about 15' from the front of the ship. We were rising and falling in excess of 100' feet, the waves bent one of the gun sponsons and you know how thick a steel they are made of.
Had we been on a 60' sailboat.... I guess that's why sailors learn to pray to someone!

So my answer to 'a blue water boat' ---- No Way!

But then there have been those skimpy boats bobbing all the way around!
Like I said, "just short of nuts"

Paul

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 12/13/2006 : 00:56:21

Hi,
I pondered a similar issue before settling on an 83 sw. A small bluewater cruiser (Southern Cross 28 or 31) would be ok inshore, and capable offshore. The TennTom to Mobile and Caribbean cruising; an eventual crossing to England. Each of those things could happen once or twice and the other 20 years I hope to sail would be less demanding. England is out of range, but not the Bahamas and island hopping to the Caribbean. I will do the TennTom once, and probably the Great Loop (Lake Erie to Lake Michigan to Chicago Ship Canal and river to Mississippi R. to Ohio R. to TennTom to ICW around to Hudson R. to Erie Canal to Lake Erie - for non midwesterners), but 2 days on I75 and I65 will mean a lot more gulf time than 2 weeks on the TennTom.

Think about what kind of sailing you will really do, not dream about. To many people buy too much boat and don't use it. Fortunately for me, I really came to grips with my reality before plunking down money. A great boat carries you to your goals and enhances your life. No single aspect of the C25 ranks very high - speed. accomodations, handling, ease of rigging (for a trailerable) - but the sum matches my intentions beautifully

Dave B.

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djn
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Response Posted - 12/13/2006 : 10:27:23

Hi Paul, I had the same experience when I was stationed on the U.S.S. Midway in Japan. We went through typhon Nora....it was fun for the first hour, but the last 12 were a real drag. Cheers.

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Randolph G. Wilson
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Response Posted - 12/13/2006 : 13:14:50

I'm a little late replying to the question, but wanted to get my two cents in anyway. I just completed a ten day trip from Galveston, TX to St. Pete, FL on a 45 footer. We experienced 30-40 knot winds and 25-30 ft seas and much broken equipment. If anyone is interested, the skipper has a website - www.johnslifeisgood.com - where he tells some of the woes we experienced. I can't even imagine sailing my C25 in the Gulf under similar conditions, much less venturing into the Pacific. I'm still recovering from the constant immersion in sea water and the bumps and bruises.

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