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Bill Arden
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Initially Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:54:08  Show Profile
Hello, All -

My wife, Connie, and I are considering a job change / move to the San Diego area.

After a cursory check of real estate prices in the SD area, we've decided to look seriously at living aboard a sailboat. We're in our mid-50's, and we currently live in a 700 sq. ft. house, so we're used to fairly small spaces.

We're looking for advice - about living in San Diego, about living aboard, or about anything else you might think is relevant.

We're currently owners of a C250, and I (at least) am an experienced sailor. If we make this move, we will trade the 250 in on something bigger - I'm guessing 34-36 foot (we're both kind of taken by the C350), but I'm open to suggestion.

Any suggestions?

Thanks and best regards,
Bill Arden / Connie Sherman
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Port Superior, WI
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 04/04/2007 :  12:04:07  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Bill,

Until yesterday we were well into spring weather. Today we have had 8" of snow and expecting 10 more in the next 24 hours due to a blizzard.

If you're in the northern tier of states, make the change. A 35 footer seems a little small for a live-aboard though. A 38 or 40 would feel a little more like your current 700 sf home.

Good luck to you,
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/04/2007 :  12:23:48  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Live aboard is certainly possible and many people do it. Live Aboard is banned in Mission Bay so you will be in San Diego Bay. Slip fees there are high and they charge extra for liveaboards. In a 35 to 40 foot slip I'd expect the fee to be about $1000/month maybe more. Slips are hard to come by in that size range and you may have to live on a mooring buoy for a year.

Its easy to buy a nice sailboat for liveaboard, day sailing, cruising and racing here (most liveaboards are not raced of course). I have a friend with a older Pacific Seacraft 37 who lives aboard, and another with a 40 something (both are single guys). These guys crewed on the race boat I was on.

It can be done. Storage is a constant problem for these people, especially clothing.

Summer vacation at Catalina and the Channel Islands. Winter at Cabo and in the Sea of Cortez. The sky's the limit!
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Bill Arden
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 :  15:23:31  Show Profile
Thank you, gents, for the information. I certainly agree with the general idea of moving south (we're in Minneapolis, and won't see 40 degrees until sometime next week).

Living aboard becomes less attractive when slip fees + boat loan payments start approaching rent for a decent-sized apartment. Pity about Mission Bay, though - the Admiral's applying for a job within sight of the park!

We'll keep the idea under consideration, though, until we absolutely have to give it up

Thanks again,
Bill & Connie
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 :  15:28:16  Show Profile
Wow!!!! $12,000 per year for slip fees. Lake Erie looks better and better.
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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 04/05/2007 :  18:10:29  Show Profile
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/10/2007 :  17:42:05  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
In Mission Bay the Fleet 7 25 foot boats pay $314/month, $3700 / year. Its approx. $10/foot plus utilities. Also pay $30 for monthly bottom cleaning. This is about the cheapest place in all of San Diego (also closest to the Pacific Ocean).

San Diego bay 25 foot side tie slips can be had for $400/month and up.

In the 35 - 40 foot range it will be $25/foot and up. Some of the fancy yacht clubs / marinas are $60/foot.

There is usually a liveaboard fee of about $900/month added on if you are a liveaboard.

So $1000/month would be a very good deal if you could get it. More liekly $2000.

Liveaboard mooring buoys are much cheaper. No power, water, sewage, take a dinghy to shore for everything, ....
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Bill Arden
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Response Posted - 04/19/2007 :  09:40:47  Show Profile
Once again, folks, thanks for the input.

Part of our original reason for the move was my father. Last July, he lost his wife of 60 years (my mother), and was facing grief, depression, and some physical ailments of his own.

Over the past few months, his condition has improved a lot. He's back to playing golf again, and talks about the future in terms of years rather than days. That, combined with the huge difference in cost of living between Minneapolis and San Diego, has led us to decide that we're better off staying here.

Oh, well... a twelve-month sailing season still sounds good to me...

Best regards to all,
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/19/2007 :  13:08:09  Show Profile
Glad to hear about your father feeling better. It was very loving of you to be willing to do the move.

Don't worry. Wisconsin is supposed to thaw out in a few months.
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