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johnsonp
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Initially Posted - 04/15/2007 : 12:13:46

This is a link to a picture showing what some newer boats I've seen have , instead of sheet bags, these are what I call tie ups for sheet lines,hayard,spinaker and other lines.

http://www.ays.com/new/delphia/33delphia.htm
Has anyone found a dealer for these devices?
paulj
I sold my C250 #719 yesterday.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 04/15/2007 : 14:04:33

These work well for me. They are cheap and require no holes be drilled in the boat.

Starboard side

Port side

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/15/2007 : 14:57:12

They are called "3M Command Adhesive Cable Bundler 17304 / MMM17304"
You can get them on Amazon for about $5.00

Product Description
Large Cord Clip Cable Bundler With Adhesive Strips, Organize Cords Behind Computers, Appliances & Entertainment Centers, Removes Cleanly & May Be Re-Used With A New Command Adhesive Strip, Holds A Bundle Of Wires Up To 3 LB & 1-1/4" In Diameter.

Perhaps Duane could link directly to them via an affiliate link for us.

Paul

Edited by - britinusa on 04/16/2007 06:49:06

SEAN
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Response Posted - 04/16/2007 : 10:03:50

I like it, we were useing cable cuffs from
home chep-o

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 04/16/2007 : 14:35:44

We don't use anything, we just tie the lines off with a simple twist and through loop and they hang all by themselves. I just can't stand addign unnecessary stuff to the boat; we dissed the sheet bags years ago. We have the main halyard, mainsheet, lazy jack line, traveler lines on each side, cunningham, reefing lines and vang. Just coil the lines, reach through, pull the standing part through, twist a lopp, tighten and lay 'em down. No muss, no fuss, no extra plastic stuff...

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/16/2007 : 14:46:14

What?!?! No Flemished lines?

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 04/16/2007 : 21:17:54

Stu
My wife said have Stu post a couple of pictures of this flip and flop and pull thru.
paulj

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Response Posted - 04/17/2007 : 04:51:46

when ever I try to self hang the lines they always slowly come lose.
and not up at the worst time

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Response Posted - 04/17/2007 : 08:33:54

I was seriously thinking about getting some of these until I read Stu's response. When we are on the boat, but not sailing, I spend a lot of time leaning back on the cabin bulkhead and just relaxing. On the starboard side we have a depth/knot meter that hits me right between my shoulder blades. So I usually sit on the port side. If I added these items, it would just take away another comfortable spot. We just coil up the lines and hang them on the cabin top winches when not sailing.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/18/2007 : 13:19:37

It seems a bit dorky but we have labeled our lines on the bulkhead. It makes it easier on the crew, especially guests, when you say pull on the main halyard and there is a little sticker that saya "Main Halyard" right at that line.

I am a bit torn. I like simplicty so Stu's idea is intriguing but I also LOVE 3M Command stuff. In fact I love 3M Command stuff almost as much as Arlyn loves bungee.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 04/18/2007 : 13:33:33

If one of you would email me at mraquaq@aol.com, I'll send you an attachment with a photo and you can post it for me, I haven't gotten around to nor do I intend to get one of those photo posting accounts (just too lazy, or I'd rather be sailing).

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 04/18/2007 : 20:01:06

Picture from Stu...

paulj

Edited by - johnsonp on 04/18/2007 20:36:29

Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 04/18/2007 : 20:53:57

Paul, thanks so much for the "relay."

I noted to Paul in our emails: "I apologize for the fact that the lines look "saggy", I usually arrange them more neatly, but this is the only picture I have and shows the loops."

Actually, the "loose-ness" of the lines show the way to tie them up without any extra plastic or holes drilled in the cockpit "backrest."

Just coil the lines, which you have to do anyway with the other "add-ons", stick your hand through the top of the coil, grab the standing end, pull through, and twist it back and over the top of the coil loop, then pull it tight as may be necessary. After a few tries you'll find the right place on the standing end to make the loop and get the line(s) to hang where you would like them to rest. It's no different than tying a coil onto a cleat at the mast, just without the upper horn of the cleat. It's in almost every knot book. Like every other knot, practice, practice, practice.

The red tracer line is the traveler car line, the left one is the mainsheet looped over the cleat (which could just have easily been tie-looped on itself), the right one is the lazy jack line, and the single lines without loops are the first tack reef and the main halyard (they're shorter, and we usually don't let them hang that way - just tuck 'em up).

When the mainsail is up, the main halyard is in the position that the mainsheet is as shown in the picture.

Re: identifying lines, most of them are different colors, so "pull the red one" usually works for novices. Gotta plan ahead when you buy line or they'll all be the same color, thus requiring "stickers."

OK, OK, imagine I had been neater when the picture was taken.

Also, consider that all the lines can be easily "flipped" up to clear the "backrest" or left there to lean against. Either way it works with no $ or time or extra effort or material.

Edited by - Stu Jackson C34 on 04/18/2007 21:09:38

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