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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 04/19/2007 : 07:12:43

What are the the correct numbers (sizes) for a 135 jib for a C250 WB?

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Response Posted - 04/19/2007 : 08:27:41

With or without roller furling? Deck sweeper or high cut clew?

With a J dimension of 9', the LP for a 135 would equal 12.15'

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Response Posted - 04/19/2007 : 16:57:16

Don, I would opt for the roller furler and nearer to a deck sweeper than a high cut clew.

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Response Posted - 04/20/2007 : 08:44:11

If you have a furler, the luff and leech of the headsail will be about a foot or so shorter than a hank on headsail to allow for the furling gear.

Are there any C250 owners out there who can answer Paul's original question?

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 00:27:29

Just checking Sail Warehouse of this web sites links shows the foot as 13' and LP of 12.2 on new 135 jibs they are selling.

I'm still wondering myself if the 135 is able to fly inside my shrouds on a 95 250 WB. My jib measures 15' on the foot and I don't really think that it is usefull to add a jib fairlead to handle this size jib.

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 06:56:23

Peter, you got me thinking with your remark about inside the shrounds.

Our 110 is rigged so that it is outside of everything. The clew doesn't reach the shrouds, but obviously a 135 would, but I envisioned that would be rigged the same way .. outside ..

Forgive my ig, 'add a jib fairlead to handle this size jib' ???

Must admin to a bit of sail evny watching a buddy of mine with his big jib last time we sailed together up off Merrit Island. But the reason I'm looking into it is to be better balanced in the lighter winds. If I buy a used one, then I'll need to know the numbers rather than have a sail loft direct.

Paul

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 09:27:20

Paul, this inside/outsude the shrouds controversy leads me to believe that a barber hauler could be rigged. There was a short article in the Feb 07 SAIL magazine regarding use of a barber hauler and a search on Catalinaowers.com has got me thinking about trying a few ways to implement a barber hauler. I'll bet some of the more creative guys on this forum have already solved this problem. Bob

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 11:53:18

The jib that came with our boat is big, so big the existing jib fairlead (for 110%) will not work unless I furl the jib down to 110% or attach a piece of track with another fairlead to the side of the coaming.
I'm thinking that since the 250 is quite tender already then getting the jib cut down would be easier.

Paul you must have your shrouds on the cabintop which would allow the sail to easily stay inside the lifelines for close hauled sailing.

Our shrouds on the 95 boat are from the outside deck/hull joint and would make the 135 go over the lifeline around the shrouds then back inside the lifeline to the fairlead.

I race a lot on a C&C SR33 and the sheeting angle (distance out from center) makes a huge difference on pointing (ability to sail closer to the wind) on the boat.

I would like to see pictures looking forward of the jib close hauled if anyone has them but I'm thinking that cutting my sail down to a 110% would sheet better and my plan is to get an asymetric spinnaker quite soon for the light stuff anyway.

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 12:05:36

Peter, you are correct, the shrouds are on the cabin top on the 2005 C250 WB model, inside the lifelines. The jib track also points almost directly towards the shrouds and with our 110% when fully close hauled, the clew is a few inches fwd of the shrouds and on the outside.

I didn't note if you hava furler.??? As you race, I'm guessing you don't.

Paul

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 12:34:28

Yes we have a furler on our 250 WB but on the race boat no furler.

I guess we could get by for a while furling the jib when close hauled but as a racer I look at details that make the boat go better.

Paul have you thought of getting an asymetric spin at all. Very simple jib like operation and with the lighter cloth shapes well at most reaching angles?

That is my plan, haven't ordered yet but very soon.

Peter

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Response Posted - 04/22/2007 : 17:09:48

Peter, you got my drift regarding the furler.

If I sit between myself and the setting sun, out the side of my eye there is an occasional glimpse of an Asym.

I do have an extending finger pole in anticipation of a larger jib(whatever).

Paul

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Response Posted - 04/24/2007 : 14:52:23

I have used a handybilly as a barber hauler on my C25SRFK sometimes when using my big sails. Hook one end to the clew of the Genoa with a reefing hook on that end of the line. Attach the other end of the handy billy to the boom vang bail (I have another bail installed just aff of the factory attachment so I can increase the purchase on the vang). The control line can go where convenient toward the cockpit. Tweaking the sail inboard just right increases speed a bit. I think I read that article in Sail which suggested to loosen the sheets while doing this. I will have to try that this year to see if it makes any difference.

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