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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 05/29/2007 :  18:07:52  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Am I right?
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 :  18:26:37  Show Profile
You just heard? 5-1 first-round knockout.
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bbriner
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 :  18:37:04  Show Profile
Italy (Luna Rossi) and New Zealand will fight it out to go after Alinghi. I think the most exciting part of these races is the 5 minutes before the race starts - check it out!
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 :  19:51:35  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Yes you are right, but this is ancient history at this point. Dickson has resigned too...
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 :  20:09:11  Show Profile
"Resigned"??
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 :  23:59:45  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
When did this happen?
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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  00:17:32  Show Profile
The news is on the America's Cup website --> [url="http://www.americascup.com/en/news/detail.php?extended=0&idPage=0&idRubr=70&idIndex=0&idContent=24555"]Chris Dickson Resigns[/url]
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  06:46:10  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br />"Resigned"??

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Quit, gave up, turned in his uniform, gave notice, flew the coup, Told Larry where to stick it, cashed in his chips.....Resigned.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />When did this happen?
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Last week, they were thrown around by Luna Rosa like a boccie ball at an Italian Picnic.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  09:06:38  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I have been out of pocket for a while, this is all news to me.
It serves us right for not fielding a pure American effort.
I was embarrassed that we had Dickson the pouter on the Oracle team.
The America's Cup died in San Diego when all remnants of the spirit of the challenge were cast aside in the name of winning.
The sailing in Newport may have sucked but it was between gentlemen.
Sailing trophies belong in Europe anyway.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  09:27:44  Show Profile
From what I know of Ellison, Dickson never had a chance to "resign."

What was it I heard... $270,000,000 down the hole? (Most ever by a wide margin.) And we groan about dropping Leathermen into the drink! Actually, I kinda enjoy hearing about guys like Ellison and Steinbrenner trying to buy their trophies and losing.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  09:47:50  Show Profile
I'm betting on NZL in the LV finals. Luna Rosa gets the edge in starts, but NZL cleans up on the course, and goes on to take the AC back to the land where sailing is the national passion. (...and we'll all have to Tivo the 33rd Cup.)
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  10:07:39  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I wish they would change the name to "world cup" or something like that.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  10:40:30  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
The racing is not named after a country but for the boat that both won the cup then offered it up as a perpetual tropy.

Besides, aren't Mexicans, Argentinians, Canadians and Peruvians Americans too?

Other thoughts:

If we (the USA) were to put together an "all American team' (ALL US TEAM) I think we would have had our clocks cleaned even worse. While I am adamantly opposed to multi national teams, if it is within the rules I think you have to do it to remain competitive.

I wonder how much Paul Cayard was payed to sit out???

I am betting that ETNZ wins just like Dave, however Alignhi will most likely wipe up on either of the two.

TIVO the 33rd Cup? by then it will be pay per view - I don't even get the VS network and only saw 1 bit of 1 race down at the yacht club. Alternatively, by then we might all have internet tv anyway without any dish, cable or antenna.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  12:43:58  Show Profile
It shold be renamed the Corporate Cup because that is what it really is.

Use Olympic rules and make all teams field purely national teams. Otherwise this event is headed for the drain. I am proud to be an American and I <b><u>HOPE </u> </b> Larry Ellison loses.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  13:59:14  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Larry Ellison already lost - but I'm not sure why you feel that way.


Here is an interesting story that is somewhat related -

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe/2007/DC%20Seahorse.htm
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  16:15:34  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Champipple</i>
<br />Larry Ellison already lost - but I'm not sure why you feel that way.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If you knew anyone who knew or worked for Larry Ellison, you'd be pretty sure.
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Gene DeMambro
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 :  22:20:09  Show Profile
Try as I might, I just couldn't get a handle on the rules for the 5 minutes before the race, especially the dial-up. I wanted most of the semi races from both competitions, and still didn't get it. Then again, I know jack about racing. Can anyone offer some insight?

Rooting for Luna Rossa at this point!

Cheers,
Gene
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/31/2007 :  10:04:22  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gene DeMambro</i>
<br />Try as I might, I just couldn't get a handle on the rules for the 5 minutes before the race, especially the dial-up.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

[url="http://www.americascup.com/en/acclopaedia/understanding/match_racing_rules/content_pre_start/dial_up.php"]The Dial Up...[/url]
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bear
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Response Posted - 06/01/2007 :  06:27:30  Show Profile
Semi-finals begin this morning, same TV channel as before.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/01/2007 :  08:31:35  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
you mean finals?
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/01/2007 :  09:05:46  Show Profile
Louis Vitton finals--effectively the semi-final for the Americas Cup.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/01/2007 :  17:32:44  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Wow, that was a snore, I hope tomorrow is a little better. You just can't beat Freemantle and the "Doctor".
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/01/2007 :  18:19:30  Show Profile
I still have a tape of the last race off Freemantle where DC blows a sail on the last leg... Gotta hook up my old VCR again some time! I predict the pre-start is going to be a little more intense tomorrow.
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