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$1 Million sailboat sinks

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Don B
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Initially Posted - 06/02/2007 : 10:46:54

Man, this could have easily ended so much worse...

http://www.miamiherald.com/548/story/125052.html

Don B
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/02/2007 : 17:33:03

Do you think he rememberd to put the bung in?

Paul

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/02/2007 : 20:14:52

Was that policy full value or replacement cost??

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Turk
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Response Posted - 06/02/2007 : 23:07:18

I'm still wondering what could have happened?

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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 08:30:27

DANG TO-HULLS!

Val on Calista, #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 08:50:57

"The trouble started around 10 a.m. They were about 10 miles off Government Cut when a water scooter fell off the back of the sailboat.

When Murray went to fetch it, he noticed the rear of the vessel was taking on water -- quickly"

I'm thinking he might have had a big "Jet Ski" hanging off the stern and the davits gave way, knocking a big hole in the stern.

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 08:52:22

Maybe the "back" of the boat was damaged when the wave runner fell off.

Think there will be an investigation?

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 12:25:41

I heard the May-Day on the news. Captain was telling the coast guard that the engine was taking on water. Classic automated system failure. the critical area of the boat with all the electronics and engine services suffers complete failure when wet. ie: bilge pump quit when its powersource got wet.
Boat sank stern down.

I used to have a stink pot with a OMC inboard. There was a rubber gasket where the leg exited the stern. I sold the boat after hearing many stories about gasket failure. The guy I sold the boat to (my cousin) had the boat sink about a year after he bought it. He converted it to an outboard, at great expense. He just started talking to me a few months ago. Ten years of silence was wonderful.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 12:50:36

Here's a [url="http://www.naplesnews.com/photos/galleries/2007/jun/01/family_rescued_after_12m_sailboat_sinks_miami_coas/"]couple more photos[/url], you can see the jet ski about where the tip of the mast might be just underwater.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 13:44:08

Don't look like a sailboat to me.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 14:00:30

Yeah, I think they got the wrong picture.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 14:26:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tompotter
 Don't look like a sailboat to me.
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How can you tell, about 4/5ths of it are under....

you are right though, bow looks like a motor sailor at best

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 14:47:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Champipple
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tompotter
 Don't look like a sailboat to me.
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How can you tell, about 4/5ths of it are under....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

No forestay or mast.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 18:56:39

For 1.2 mil it could have been that shroudless or forestayless design. On a 63 footer the mast would have probably been outt of sight at this point

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 19:14:29

Here's another [url="http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1114994495&fr="]video[/url] that shows the yacht much better before it sinks. Its one of those fancy "sailboats", the ones without mast or sails. Just a big iron genny and a flying bridge.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/03/2007 : 20:19:07

You would think floridians would know the difference. That ain't no sailboat it's a yacht

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/04/2007 : 07:22:24

Duane, I think you hit the nail there!

When we launch from black point marina, probably the busiest public marina in florida, in two years, we have only seen 3 other sail boats on the ramps!!!!

If Boat US is lurking, they could tell us the ratio of powerboats to sailboats registered in florida. but our experience says it's something like less than 1%

If you look away from the ramps, then black point marina has a large sailing fleet, but it is dwarfed by the daily number of power boats that use the ramps.
ie. if there were 100 sailboats in the marina slips, then more powerboats launch from the ramps on a quite day!

And if you count the number of sailboats that actually leave the marina... whoooa! It's us and the few Macs.

So no wonder the news media called that mini mega yatch (is that a midi yatch) a 'sailboat'.

This is another reason we are headed for the B.E.E.R. Cruise this week, 92 boats are registered, perhaps 80% wll turn up, 70+ 'sailboats' (with sails

) will be an awesome sight! We'll take extra memory chips! and my video camera recharger!

Paul.

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