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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 08/20/2007 : 16:09:09

Click below to read my trip report. LOTS of Photos!

http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/vacation07.html

Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 16:37:00

Sounds like Indi-III had the bit in her teeth! Great stuff--thanks!

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 20:31:05

You did it on only 1.8 Tecates per day? That's survivial rations.
It had to be brutal... 1.8 per hour is more like it. :>)

Great adventure.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 21:28:02

Now THAT'S living, mate. Nice show, Jim!

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 22:40:44

It was like trade wind sailing on the way down. Seas 2 to 4, winds to 20. 7.5 knots under poled out jib and prevented main. The ship rolled a lot. It was really fun and very relaxing. I was a little worried the whole time about getting back!

Although I survived on 18 beers, that does not count the many consumed poolside and in town!

It was HOT, humid, and buggy. Next time I need to make screens for the foredeck hatch and companionway, plus a 12 volt fan. Also I must come up with some shade for the cockpit.

When I was beating around the north end of Isla Todos Santos Norte, in 15 knots of wind, rough seas, and 30 feet of water I had a remarkable epiphany. I felt totally at one with the boat. Totally. Indiscipline and I were a single unit with one purpose, weathering the point. We had total confidence in each other. We were an extension of each other. In athletic terms, I guess I was "in the zone". I could feel every wave, every puff, in my soul.

When sailing the Westsail 28 the next day it was in some ways a total letdown. Yes the boat is big, solid, and built so much better than the C25. But it doesn't talk to me the way Indiscipline does. It doesn't react. There is little feel. It doesn't matter if the sails are trimmed or not - you still make your 4 knots. By the way, tacking a cutter with running backstays is a ton of work and that boat is never winning any races. Although you could set a tiller tamer and it would steer herself for hours.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 22:47:06

One other thing, the secret to remarkable MPG.

For one, I always motorsailed, most of the time with the jib up. On the way back I motored 9 hours on about 2 gallons of gas. I had the main and jib trimmed for about 2.5 knots. That was not fast enough so I dropped in the motor, throttled just above idle up to 4.5 knots and sheeted in a little.

The other thing, when under power with main only (rare on this trip) I kept speeds down to about 4 to 4.5 knots. That made a huge difference.

Total motoring about 16 hours on 5 maybe 6 gallons. Its less than 1/2 gallon per hour.

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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 11:30:56

What a treat Jim, thanks a load, and how fortunate for you that your two ladies were there to meet you...truly blessed.

Val on Calista,#3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 11:53:49

Just another Woo-hoo Jim! You're a lucky man!

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gop711
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 12:55:52

Jim,

Thanks for taking the time to post photos about your recent trip. It sure is nice to look at the photos and read about your adventure while at work. In looking at your home page you have done a lot of sailing in your C25.

I have a question for you. I have a 89 wing keel with a 9.9. I have always been concerned about coming into a channel with the wind behind you and the tide going out. With a narrow channel this can create some interesting waves. I have entered a channel a number of times on my friend's larger boat and it has been hard to do at times. I am worried that the outboard would not be up for the task at hand.
Have you ever experience any problems like this coming back into port?

Presently I sail the C25 on an inland lake in middle Ga, but I plan on retiring in two years and sailing in the keys where I grew up. This is the reason for this question.

Thanks
Greg

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 14:02:53

Well that's my kinda trip.

paulj

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 15:19:43

I often read about people saying they regularly go over 7 knots. I thought the hull limited us to about 6.3? My understanding is that for going over 6.3 the hull has to come out of the water and plane? What am I missing here?

Nice trip by the way!

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 15:27:55

Answer a couple of questions:

(1) I was running down there at 7.5 knots by GPS but there is a 1 to 1.5 knot current helping out. Also with following seas the boat will get up and surf a little which cancels out some of the limitations of 1.3 times the square root of waterline. Yes, above 6.3 knots THROUGH THE WATER the boat has to start to plane, at least a little. The C25 will do it in some conditions under spinnaker or on a reach in strong winds with a big wave push.

(2) The 9.8 HP outboard gives incredible power, thrust, and even steering ability to the boat. I would not hesitate to take on contrary currents and waves in a docking situation. It is always helpful to dock INTO the wind and current. When the wind is opposing the current and you have to buck large square waves, the biggest worry is that the outboard might get dunked while the boat is pitching. That is unlikely to happen with the 25 inch shaft and the motor mount on the topmost setting.

This is a situation where a 5 HP 20 inch shaft would be marginal.

The ability to reach back and steer the tiller and outboard give you a big advantage over regular boats.

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 15:46:16

Another reason to give the Admiral on why I need a GPS (to go faster) LOL

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gop711
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Response Posted - 08/21/2007 : 15:48:33

Thanks for getting back with me and your answers gives me the info I was looking for.

Greg

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