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khamburger
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Initially Posted - 09/11/2007 : 09:11:46

OK. I guess I'll also toss the request out here. If anyone has a line on a mast for a 250, please let me know. I'm getting desperate.

Keith

Keith Hamburger
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txbigfoot
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Response Posted - 09/11/2007 : 13:50:23

there is a guy that is parting out a standard rig 25. Would that mast be too short? i think he said it was 29ft 8 inches.

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 09/11/2007 : 15:26:48

Would he have the bow pulpit available from the boat being parted out?

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khamburger
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Response Posted - 09/11/2007 : 20:05:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by txbigfoot
 there is a guy that is parting out a standard rig 25. Would that mast be too short? i think he said it was 29ft 8 inches.
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Actually, that sounds close, but I haven't got exact dimensions for my mast. I've requested that from Catalina but, as yet, received no response. Kent, at Catalina, did imply that the extrusion is the same, but I don't know about the other fittings on the mast.

I will keep that in mind, however, just in case.

Keith

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/11/2007 : 23:14:40

The mast length for a standard rig C-25 is 28 feet. I know my tall rig mast is 30 feet from base to the masthead. Also, as mentioned on other threads, the overall dimensions, including wall thickness, are larger than a std rig mast. I don't know about the C-250.

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Response Posted - 09/15/2007 : 21:41:29

I looked hard for a mast for our Catalina 25. The prices were $3000 fo ra complete mast and $1000 for the extrusion plus an additional $500 shipping. Several people offered masts from other boats, but what I would up doing was having two masts that were broken in different places welded (heiloarched) together to make one that was 28 feet 1/4inch.
We have been using it for nearly a month and it is doing well. If I knew how to put a picture into this message I'd show how well it turned out.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/16/2007 : 07:22:14

Rick, read the artile in the Testing forum titled:
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(Click on all forums above, then click on Testing, then click on How to post photos..)

Paul

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 : 21:26:11

Keith, just wanted to say how disapointing to say the least I find your ordeal on finding a replacement mast. I thought a good service orriented company like Catalina could help you find one pretty quickly, but I guess not. I mean, they build 250's on a regular basis, how difficult is it to order an extra one and sell it to you?

I really hope never to need one myself!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 : 21:43:20

I don't know it this will [url="http://www.charternet.com/greatgear/h1.html"]help.[/url]

Also, have you tried Catalina Direct?

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khamburger
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Response Posted - 09/27/2007 : 18:38:36

Yes, at Kent Nelson's suggestion (when I finally got a response from him) I called them. They said that if they were to get a mast they would get it from the mfg. So, that's out.

As to having extra masts when they build some boats, it pretty much sounded to me like, from what i got from Kent, they're not going to build anymore. He said something along they lines of he doesn't expect Catalina to order any more of those masts.

I know there has been some mention of a new generation of boats, perhaps they're going to a completely different extrusion than they've use for the past 30+ years.

And, about getting the technical drawings, after a couple of rounds with one to two weeks between replies from Catalina, Kent said he would send the technical drawings to a mast mfg, if they were to contact him. Well, I'm having troubles getting the mast people to reply to me as well.

Perhaps I need to shower more often, but how would they know that by phone and email?

Keith

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 09/28/2007 : 08:22:44

What happened to your mast? do you have the broken parts or is it gone completely?
I find it hard to believe that Catalina can't get you a mast. Kent is the service engineer, not the parts guy. Call the parts department and say, " I'd like to place an order for a new mast, what is the deposite required for this order?" They will get you one.
I bought a keel cable for my C25, Hull number 0029 about a year ago. If they have parts for my boat, certainly they have parts for yours. It's too new not to have parts.
Leave a detailed message on the parts answering machine, HID number, and all the information you can think of and they will call you back.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 09/28/2007 : 09:29:00

Keith -- As of last weekend when I was at the Norwalk CT boat show talking with a Catalina dealer, Catalina had discontinued several models but not the 250, which I was told still sells well. That being said my guess is that Catalina does not make the spars but rather they purchase them. I would call Catalina and ask for someone in parts sales or just sales service and explain what you are looking for and ask if they can quote you a new mast or, if not, if they can tell you who they buy the spars from so you can pursue directly with them. Be prepared for sticker shock -- I'll bet that the mast will cost in line with what CD sells the replacement bare 25 mast for, which is @$1,200 + If the price is an issue then I would google boatyards in the path of Katrina and see if any insurance boats are being parted out. However, if I were you and had a relatively new boat like the 250 I would pursue with Catalina and buy a new mast. Good Luck!

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 09/28/2007 : 15:44:44

Let me first say that I'm a novice and don't know more than I do know.

I hate to be a heretic but, what's so dern special about a "Catalina" mast? Unless there's some class rules regarding proprietary masts, it would seem to me that any reputable spar maker has one that will hold up the sails. It isn't as if it's some unique shape or design. It's just a stick of aluminium. You just need the size of the mast step and find an oval spar that will fit it. Hopefully, the masthead fittings could be re-used but if not, buy fittings that will. I would imagine that a spar maker would have a hard time finding a buyer if they couldn't provide fittings to match.

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 09/29/2007 : 21:23:10

Here is an Aluminum Mast (29'4") & Boom (8'8") from a 1980, 25' US Yacht Sailboat
Has internal sail track, spreders, VHF antenna and a RC Marine winch.
Sail has some damage and the light lenses are missing. That is a quote from the eBay ad for item 180163832572. It is not mine and I know nothing about it other than I found it on eBay.
Ed

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khamburger
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Response Posted - 10/01/2007 : 18:50:42

OK. I'll try to reply to all the questions and comments.

As to what happened to my mast, that has been discussed elsewhere, but I'll just go ahead and mention that the boat was blown off the trailer in a storm and the mast was screwed up. As to the price, as long as it's not completely out of line I don't care what it costs. The insurance is going to pay for it, after deductible, of course, and I've already got a quote of over $3000 from the marina for gelcoat and fiberglass repairs and putting the boat back on the trailer (the crane company charged double to come out on a Saturday and the rangers at the state park were already starting to get uptight after 24 hours).

Yes, I have all the parts. The anchor light and combo light were broken, but everything else is ok. However, if I were to get a bare extrusion I would be at the mercy of the marina to put everything back in place properly and I'm not sure of their expertise in putting masts together. I'm primarily concerned about the slots, and hardware, for the shrouds. If those aren't cut right, and in the right place, I could see some problems.

As to the mast section, you're right about it not being that special. I have found a company (www.lefiell.com) who's L100 mast section looks to be a perfect match. I got a phone call from a gentleman there a week and a half after I emailed them. He seemed fairly eager to work with me, but, after I called Kent and was told that they would give the technical drawings to a manufacturer, I emailed him again and haven't heard anything in over two weeks.

I would love to just have a quote for the mast and shipping. Then I would settle with the insurance company and move on.

Oh well, at my marina there are two Macgregor owners who need masts, and Macgregor has them, but won't ship the masts without sending them on a boat heading to the area. I've been told that if I can find a mast and find the time to head to California, they'll split the costs of the trip with me if I pick up their masts as well. Maybe I can get a deal on the shipping that way.

Keith

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