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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 10/08/2007 : 22:31:08

It's nearly done, just waiting for the final coat to dry and then have to mount the support strips around the cabin seats.

It looks much bigger than the original table, but it's really only a little larger, hardly weighs much more at all. Made out of Lowes best finished ply for the top and leafs, Red oak for the leg mounts, and oak legs. All finished with Minwax Helmsman Spar Polyurethene (8 coats with sanding between coats.) The leafs are held up with the turning braces underside, they are held on with 1/4" brass bolts and double nuts. Brass hinges. More pics to come when it's installed. Have done a trial install and it fits a treat. I'm going to make four leg baseplates to adhere to the sole. They'll be made of starboard type material, basically about 1/4" thick doughnuts with slooping edges so they can't be kicked, an indent in the center will keep the legs in place.

Heres the pics out of the boat.
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I have made an insert to fill the cutout on the fwd end of the table to add to the table's rigidity by fully enclosing the mast support.
It'll be fixed in place once the table is installed.

more pic later....
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Joint Decision. (Sold)
PO C250WB 2005 Sail # 841.

Moved up to C34 Eximius

Updated August 2015

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 02:10:54

Very impressive Paul! You're quite a woodworker!

Questions out of curiosity:
1. How did you incorporate the "JD" inset letters?
2. Why not just reuse the original tables legs?

Edited by - Steve Blackburn on 10/09/2007 02:11:25

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 07:16:57

Steve,
The JD:
Printed the letters in very large font onto regular paper, cut out the letters to make a stencil then sprayed adhesive on top of the first coat of Minwax using the stencil as a mask. Then applied Brass Leaf from the local art supplier. Used a sticky pen to apply a couple more layers of leaf. Cleaned off the excess and applied remaining coats of leaf. In retrospect I would have used wood inlays which I found in another local store.

The original legs just don't allow the table to be lowered into a v-berth extension. As you can see in the last pic, the legs fold up. The table top is a nice fit (I scribed it in place) and the legs just clear the coffee table. These are actually the 4th set of legs for the table. First I made ply frames for front and back that hinged out of the way: very wobly and did not allow the table to go down to the level of the bunk tops. 2nd was a set of metal legs taken off a $25 fold up table from wallmart: Sturdy, but again the table top was too high in the low position. 3rd were these same legs but on hinges. They cleared the coffee table, but were so wobbly that it would have been a game every meal to keep the table still. Finally I decided to just mount the legs in wooden blocks with bolts and they really are firm.

Paul

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 07:45:27

Steve, further to your comment 'quite a woodworker', actually, I'm not so great. This project is remarkably simple: Jig saw, Hole cutter, hand saw, cordless drill, hand sanding block, screw driver paint brushes (thowaways) is all that is needed. The wood was about $25, the brass screws were $26 (and I have a load left over, I just couldn't bring myself to pay for two dozen screws at double the price per screw instead of a box of 100.) I used hotmelt real wood adhesive veneer around the edge, using our regular Iron. (don't tell peggy!) I'm hoping the 'brass finish' hinges will hold up, they have a couple of coats of minwax on them.

paul

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 11:06:28

EDIT <s>Paul, my table fits in the bow compartment under the V-berth, legs folded and all. It's been in there all season.</s>
V-Berth EXTENSION, oh ok!

I appreciate the pictures by the way. This forum serves me as a sort of communal project notebook. You're a great contributor.

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:39:44

Paul
So my understanding is, you are going to be able to drop the table and extend the v-berth?

Patent Infringement! Patent Infringement! Patent Infringement!

Looks great, you working on a cushion?

speaking of "patent Infringement" what did you use to glue your lexan in your companionway hatch board with?

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:21:10

Paul, very nice. Are you retired? Do you take orders?

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Response Posted - 10/09/2007 : 17:24:01

Tom, the Lexan is 'glued' using the 5200 goop.

Regardign 'Patent infringment'.
Spoke with my legal advisor (Admiral), which did due diligence and responded with <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The design, function, material, specifications, manufacturing method, conception, stability, asthetics and the glue, are all sufficiently different as to be safe.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Paul.

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Response Posted - 10/11/2007 : 20:08:20

Ping Tom Potter.

Tom, can you share the method you attached the V-Berth extension supports on the port, stbd and fwd bunk faces. What size wood and method of securing the wooden strips to the bunks. I figure my strips need to be about 1/4" thick.

Paul.

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Response Posted - 10/11/2007 : 21:01:05

Paul,
I used four strips of teak about 3/4 inch square. One long strip on each side and 2 shorter strips on the front. The reason for the short strips is because of the curvature of the front. The teak is hard to bend so to make the curve so I used 2 shorter pieces. If you use a softer would you might be able to make the bend. I used 1/4 inch bolts(I think) and nuts with large washers for backing.

Heres a [url="http://www.bellsouthpwp2.net/t/o/tompotter/my%20web/page16.html"]link.[/url]

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Response Posted - 10/12/2007 : 05:55:24

Thanks Tom. I think those Teak strips will cost more than the table!

I do think the backing washers a good idea.
That's on this weekends HDL.

Paul

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Response Posted - 10/14/2007 : 16:44:15

Getting there.

First install.
I have to finish off the insert fwd of the mast and make the doughnuts to retain the legs in place on the cabin sole.

With the flaps down, there's more room to crawl up fwd and yet continue to use the table. The fwd insert and the leg doughnuts will give the table positional stability.

With the flaps up, there is still room to slide in and dine. the table is a little wider than the original, but not so long.
You can see the v-berth support strips that are thru bolted on the seat fronts, 4 x 1/4" countersunk bolts with crush washers and nuts.
I didn't put strips on the fwd face of the cabin seats as, when lowerwed, the table rests on the coffee table.

The only tenderness is if you perch right on the aft edge of the table in the v-berth extension position, the fwd end tries to lift up, I really have to sit close to the aft edge to notice that. Maybe I'll put a sticker - 'NO STEP' on the aft edge of the table

In the lowered position it really extends the v-berth enough room for admirals pole dansing

No cushion yet.. still going......
Paul.

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Response Posted - 10/14/2007 : 23:24:37

Paul, when you gonna post pics of admirals pole dancing? BTW, table looks great. Especially like how it doubles as V-berth ext.

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Response Posted - 10/15/2007 : 06:53:22

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">post pics of admirals pole dancing?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I'll get the video camera out tonight with a bottle of wine. I'm sure Peggy will oblige but it will have to be after 9pm when her 12hr shift at the hospital is over.

Paul

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Response Posted - 10/15/2007 : 07:36:08

Very nice Paul ,

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