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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  12:10:03  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Frank,

maybe it was a change to the '89 model sometime after Gary and my boat was made ?
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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  12:18:01  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
Thanks Frank! You da man! I do have a swing keel, I thought the Keel bolts were associated with the swing mechanism. (I'm sure there's something to check, like the "pin" I think.) I believe this has to be done when the fish is out of the water.? Thanks for advice on the anchor locker. It was so cold, I just drained the water, and didn't do any troubleshooting. When sailing, it accumulates there very quickly, I thought it could have been getting in under the rub rails, so I ran a bead of silicone type material on top and bottom of the rail. It didn't work. I'll have to open up the locker and give it a check see.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  19:26:04  Show Profile
For what its worth, 83 swing keel has stringers but no limber holes.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  19:34:50  Show Profile
KiteKraemer,

I get water in the same area although not anywhere near what you're getting and not all of the time. I believe mine is coming through the anchor locker but haven't had time to verify.

When I was shopping for my boat I looked at 10 or 12 C25's of various ages and keel types and never saw one with the stringers. The infamous '89 - Andiamo that everyone got tired of hearing me talk about also didn't have these stringers.

Those stringers look like the same type of fiberglass and age as the surrounding bilge area.

I wish mine did have those stringers so the floor would be more solid.

GaryB
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Kemah,TX
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  19:44:33  Show Profile
I posted to quickly. There are bolts holding the swing assembly - these are the equivalent of of the keel bolts. They support the weight of the keel when down and share the load with the cable when raised. The pivot assembly and pin are pretty durable, but should be checked every few years. My pin, turning ball, cable, and attachment were just replaced while I had the keel off for fairing and new barrier coating.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/16/2008 :  08:28:39  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Bamboo also has no stringers, and GaryB I don't think I like the sound of your bilge floor being springy. Do you mean spongy? Like possibly water in the fiberglass?
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/16/2008 :  09:32:30  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
My floor is like a rock. If you reflect on the earlier boats, they all had the uneven floor regardless of keel type. That would have the unintentional effect of acting like a longitudinal stringer. I would not be surprised if the change over to a flat floor caught them unawares of the impact of no horizontal stringers in the bilge. I am sure glad I have them.
We sure hijacked this one huh?
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/16/2008 :  13:12:50  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I have the open bilge w/no stringers but the floor is stable - No sign of flex/springy or whatever. Curious thing why some have stringers and others do not.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/16/2008 :  19:44:12  Show Profile
Springy may not be the right word. The floor is solid but moves up and down very slightly when walking on it like you would expect when someone that weighs 245 pounds walks on something that's cantilevered out. It's sturdy enough that if I lost 50 or 75 pounds it probably wouldn't move at all. There are no spider cracks anywhere on the floor.

Looking at Frank's picture it's obvious that you wouldn't have that slight flexing like I have if I walked on his floor.

GaryB
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