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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 01/13/2008 :  09:20:34  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
I followed one of the links that our forum earns from and found this.

http://www.krillsystems.com/Index.html

Might be a bit of overkill even on a C250, but I thought, ok, what sensors could we include on our boat, here's my list so far.

Wind speed & Direction
Depth & speed through water
Compass bearing
Heal angle
Battery voltages (2)
Fresh water levels (2)
Engine fuel level (1)
Outside temp
Humidity
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Paul

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PO C250WB 2005 Sail # 841.


Moved up to C34 Eximius

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/13/2008 :  10:58:05  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Water Temp

Barometric pressure & whether rising or dropping

Amperage load

Estimated time before a bathroom break is needed

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 01/13/2008 :  11:08:59  Show Profile
Hours remaining on battery bank

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 01/13/2008 :  13:24:08  Show Profile
radar
storm detector
Hull porosity monitor
bilge moisture detector
bikini proximity sensor
beer level and temperature indicator
breathalyzer
long distance naked babe detector
GPS with advanced dock bar rating system


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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/13/2008 :  14:11:30  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
At first, I did not think there really was any reason for an install of this nature....but then reading the above response and I see...I was wrong !

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Andy_334
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Response Posted - 01/13/2008 :  20:55:38  Show Profile
Mount Gay Rum proximity sensor and, more importantly, the rig Tensionometer!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 01/13/2008 :  21:38:45  Show Profile
bank account

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roberoo
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  05:08:05  Show Profile  Visit roberoo's Homepage
The remote access would be handy. I played with this leaving a laptop going on the boat to see what I could access via a web cam. It was kind of nice to see what was going on around the boat from the house or while traveling.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  08:31:39  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tom Potter</i>
<br />bank account
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">why bother with a blank display?

Diesel: oil and coolant temp and pressure; fuel level and pressure; raw water flow

Head: holding tank level (coupled to cooler content level and time-to-next-potty-break and number of crew; link to GPS to point to next pump-out with best bar); odor-a-meter (best use of remote sensing ever)

Crew monitoring: "ROCI"(reaction on conditions index); TTM (time to mutiny)

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/14/2008 :  11:48:23  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Crew Monitoring: Cooler Status, Skipper Tack Cards remaining,

There are a number of cheaper models that link to GPS and other instrumentation that might be a bit more reasonable.

It looks like a pretty nice setup for Greg Norman's boat though.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  09:51:57  Show Profile
on a more serious note, if/when I do something like this I will probably use a PC. I can display my instruments at the nav station as well as use it as a music player, remote internet access etc.

For a small boat (i.e. C25x) or to fit where existing instruments are, I'd use a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Mobile_PC"]ultra-mobile[/url] that is small but still runs windows.

For a bigger boat or to do more (like real navigation, movies etc), I'd use a tablet PC with a decent size screen (17" HD is not that uncommon).

To make it seamless, you'd need to use a set of instruments that have a PC-based program that can talk to them (e.g. [url="http://www.raymarine.com/productdetail.aspx?site=1&SECtion=2&page=1384&product_id=3534"]raymarine[/url]).

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  10:05:29  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Not that I am running out to buy it, but I thought something like this would be about right...

http://www.bandg.com/Products/RaceVision/RaceVision3000/

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  10:27:33  Show Profile
Instruments are great to have and I've been drooling over a wind transducer forever, but for the type of sailing I do (mostly singlehanded day/night sailing), I don't think I would use it all that much. Just this past season, I didn't even bother to install my speed transducer, the cover never came off my compass, and I only used my depth sounder a few times to show guests the depths of the freighter channels. I also find that I'm using my autopilot less than I used to.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  11:24:30  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
If I were to go whole hog down the PC route, I'd get a [url="http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-computers.asp"]Panasonic Toughbook[/url].



A friend of mine who used to be a marine biologist in another life had to identify whales by their flukes. They usually took pictures of the broaching whale and wrote down a bunch of information. She needed something that would do the work for her because writing <i>anything </i>in an 18' Boston Whaler on the open ocean was a challenge. We started down the road for a point & shoot "gun" with a digital camera attached to a rifle stock interfaced with a Toughbook & GPS. This would have recorded about 90% of the information at one trigger pull, but the funding for the project fell through. It was too bad, it would have been fun to figure out.


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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 01/15/2008 :  15:25:51  Show Profile
<font color="blue"><font size="4"><font face="Comic Sans MS">If you want to run a computer on board your boat with whatever software or reason, you can take note of some of my learning curve.

Those of you who have and used portable a GPS unit will note that: the screen is daylight readable, is operated by a touch screen or buttons on the unit and where ever you mount it or how you mount it the screen has to be readable.

The same conditions apply with the use of a laptop or a UMPC... <b>ultra mobile PC</b>.

At the 2006 Seattle Boat Show I visited all the booths and listened to all the marine software vendors and thought I had a pretty good handle on things.....this means I was willing to use a lot of BU's.

One of the vendors had a ASUS R2H UMPC on display and mentioned that someone had recently used the unit on a boat and their software worked fine.

I purchased the marine software and bought the ASUS on the Internet.
Set up the unit at home and worked out the usual bugs and it was ready to go.

Went to the boat the next day and sat in the cabin started up the unit got a map, got a GPS signal and up pops the boat on the screen just where I am located.
Proceeded to the deck with the ASUS and couldn't read the screen. I turned my back to sun so the ASUS was in my shadow, went under shadow of boom, went under the dodger, etc,etc.....still could not read the screen.
I went back inside of cabin and I could read the screen just fine.

My wife just said the dog has to go out and it's MY turn to walk the dog...NOW

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Andy_334
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Response Posted - 01/16/2008 :  23:08:48  Show Profile
[slight hijack]

I have heard others talking about this:



from http://www.laptop.org

Apparently, the power consumption is no where near a standard laptop - it sports the first ever laptop screen thats readable in sun light! It can be charged by human power - crank etc. Accepts multiple variations of power sources - and sports a wireless network antanne that is much better than a standard laptop. Waterproof key board - durable case etc.

Open source operating system with flash memory - no spinning hard drive.

Anyone think it might be right for them?

[/slight hijack]

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 01/17/2008 :  00:24:24  Show Profile  Visit Steve Blackburn's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Nautiduck</i>
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Redundant since you already have the heal angle.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/17/2008 :  08:40:16  Show Profile
I need clarification on "Heal" angle... That'd be the tipsiness of the angry captain?

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 01/17/2008 :  10:57:26  Show Profile
<font color="blue"><font size="4"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Just got back from walking the dog.

Has anyone used the Xenatc 1020TSV in the daylight conditions?

http://www.xenarc.com/product/1020tsv.html

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