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dmpilc
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Initially Posted - 01/18/2008 :  21:50:37  Show Profile
I thought you might be interested in seeing these pics. On our trip to England May-June 2006, we visited, among others, a small coastal town called Lynmouth on the southwestern coast. A lot of the sailboats there have twin keels and you are about to see why. The harbor picture was taken at low tide. Can you pick out the Catalina 25 (called a Jaguar 25 there)? Left side of pic.
The wall on the left separates the harbor from a river coming down the hill. At high tide, the water will reach the next to the top level of the wall, and waves may wash over the top of the wall. There are very heavy primary chains crossing the harbor about every 70 feet and the ball floats are on smaller chains attached to the primaries. The Catalina(Jaguar)22 pictures with yours truly in it show a close up of how they protect the swing keel at low tide.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/18/2008 :  22:05:35  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
David,
Here's how to easily post pictures in the forum:
Change your Format Mode from Basic to Prompt (upper left of the editing window underneath screensize).
Go to the page where the photo you want is shown (in your case Shutterfly, which is the same place I use), and right click on the photo. Select "Copy image location".
Come back to your forum post, and click on the "Insert Image" icon (4th from the right, sort of looks like a black arrow pointing at an upsidedown envelope), right click on the blue "http://" and paste your image URL into the line. Click OK.
You'll see a line similar to this:
(img)http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df39b3127cceb45713f03cd800000026102AcsmzVy5Ysi([/img)
except the parenthesis will be square brackets which will result in this:


These instructions are for Mozilla Firefox, if you're using Internet Explorer or another browser there will be slight differences you should be able to figure out.

Hope this helps.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/18/2008 :  22:33:15  Show Profile
Thanks for the help. Fixed it above.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/19/2008 :  08:11:34  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Firefox makes it awful easy doesn't it? The only browser I use!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 01/19/2008 :  09:50:51  Show Profile
Great photos. I wonder what impact those stabilizers have on the handling of the sailboats? Looks like those folks better be vert attentive of the tides!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/19/2008 :  10:40:49  Show Profile
Probably slows them down a little. At another harbor town, we saw a standard keel boat, probable 35 ft, heavily bumpered and just tied up to the sea wall. Saw another boat with what looked like 4x4 posts form fitted to the hull on one side. That one scared me a little. Apparently, like some cities here, slips are hard to come by and very expensive.
Incidentally, Lynmouth is one of a pair of towns, Linton is at the top of the mountain coastline and they have a neat railcar connecting the two - works on water and gravity, no electricity. Google "Lynmouth, England" for more pics and narrative, especially the Cliff Railway. It has a pic of the harbor at high tide.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 01/19/2008 :  16:56:57  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Karen and I are planning to retire and sail to Europe and Great Britian. Those incredible photos make me wonder how we'll handle it. Thanks for posting.

I imagine the reason they have the windows cut in the bilge keels is to keep them light, they would have little hydrodynamic effect. If they were full, and heavy, it would make the boat really stiff.

I'm sure they add a lot of drag.

Notice all the boats look in tip top shape, not like most of the floating wrecks around here.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/19/2008 :  18:22:35  Show Profile
I'm sure that you and Karen would have a great time sailing Europe and Great Britain. We did see several more "traditional " marinas, but the tides are awesome. I suggest you look into sailing across Great Britain through the three great lochs up in Scotland, the largest of which is Loch Ness. We met a couple locking through from one to the other and they seemed to be having a good time overall. That is truly a big lake. Very impressive! If you are planning to sail in the Med, i.e. Italy, Greece, Crete, etc., I would suggest reading the book "Sailing Acts", written by a minister re-tracing Paul's travels by sailboat. Not only is the biblical connection interesting, and I'm not pushing that in this forum, but he goes into a lot of discussion about entering foreign ports, customs issues, language difficulties, etc. Enjoy!

Edited 1/20/08 "...retracing Paul's travels" not Luke as originally typed. I was thinking about the book of Luke. Sorry.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 01/20/2008 :  11:14:25  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Sailing Acts sounds good I love knowing the history of a place and religious history is an interesting as military. Especially sailing history.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/20/2008 :  12:03:54  Show Profile
"Sailing Acts, Following an Ancient Voyage", by Linford Stutzman. Good Books Press, www.GoogBks.com. Linford grew up in Oregon, father was a minister, he went on to teach religious studies at Eastern Mennonite University where he was due for a sabattical. He was teaching in Israel when he got the idea for the trip, then spent the next 2 years reading about the Mediterranian and preparing for the journey.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 01/20/2008 :  17:53:04  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Thanks, I ordered it from Amazon for $8.

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