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Chris Z
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Initially Posted - 02/12/2008 :  14:45:04  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Saw this new motor from honda in L&A this month.
http://www.honda-marine.com/modelDetail.aspx?modelGroup=BF2
And it weighs only 27 lbs.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/12/2008 :  16:20:47  Show Profile
They've been around for a while... I have one for my Achilles. They're air cooled, which is a plus for maintenance and a minus for noise. They have a centrifugal clutch instead of a shifter, which is a factor in their light weight. It takes some getting used to, and if you start with the throttle set too high, you can get a little surprise! The next best, for weight, is the 41 lb. Tohatsu, which has a normal shifter. I chose the lighter weight--so far I'm pleased.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/12/2008 :  16:35:35  Show Profile
As a teenager, I and 2 friends bought a go kart that had an engine with a centrifugal clutch. The clutch flew off the first time we drove it. Turns out the engine had a tapered driveshaft - that may have contributed to the clutch failure. We couldn't get it to stay on so we ended up welding a sprocket to the shaft, so you had to push it to start the thing (then jump on quickly if you were by yourself). We clocked it at over 60 MPH once - feels like 100 when your butt is only 2" off the pavement!!!
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piseas
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Response Posted - 02/12/2008 :  16:56:29  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
27 LBS, WOW! I assume for your dinghy. I ended up with a 6hp Tohatsu and it weighs 55lbs. I wanted something a little more powerful. All the 4 - 6hp weighed the same. But 27lbs sounds good to me. I have a honda for my c250 and love it. Good luck.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/12/2008 :  18:53:48  Show Profile
Read the fine print - the 27 pounder is 2 hp!!
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/12/2008 :  18:58:43  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by piseas</i>
<br />27 LBS, WOW! I assume for your dinghy. I ended up with a 6hp Tohatsu and it weighs 55lbs. I wanted something a little more powerful. All the 4 - 6hp weighed the same. But 27lbs sounds good to me...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...but not to push your C-250. The Honda 8-9.9 is built for virtually the opposite objectives of the 2. The 2 is built purely to minimize weight--by having no water cooling, no gear shift, and as much plastic as possible. It accomplishes the task, does what it's supposed to do, and is what it is. If it didn't say Honda, I probably wouldn't have trusted it.
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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  05:29:36  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Yep, for my Sea ranger 8 foot dinghy. I am looking for light weight as apposed to power.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  07:51:28  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I have a [url="http://www.suzukimarine.com/sr_07/df2.5/"]Suzuki 2.5[/url]. Weighs 30lb., standard shift. Love it! Very quiet, plenty of torque and power for my 8' Quicksilver inflatable.
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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  13:08:14  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Dave,

Thanks for the information. I am going to shop around and see what kind of price I can get on one. What did you pay for yours?
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  15:25:08  Show Profile
I have an Evinrude 2hp on our dink. 22 pounds. Bought it on e-Bay for $350.
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piseas
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  15:28:47  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Dave, exactly. My Honda 8 is for my C250. I do lots of ocean sailing and back and forth to Catalina Island so I wanted something more powerful say if a whale hit me and sunk my boat. The motor on my dingy would handle getting me and crew back to safety. If I did lake a 2hp is perfect.
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tchowes
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  21:52:02  Show Profile  Visit tchowes's Homepage
That Suzuki looks like a nice compromise of power/weight. Too bad Honda couldn't figure out how to lighten their 8/9.9 in the process (though I'm sure they're working on it since they are the Honda MOTOR company). I don't miss the smokey and loud 2 strokes, but the old Johnson 9.9 electric at 82lbs was compact and light.
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 02/13/2008 :  23:17:38  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
It seems the more sailing I do, the less days I go to the fitness center. That's where my Honda 9.9Hp motor has another positive attribute besides being a highly reliable motor - It helps work the arm muscles !
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 02/14/2008 :  08:26:27  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Chris,
I paid $750 for mine a year ago. I also like the fact that it holds it's own gas, so no gas line or tank bouncing around.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/14/2008 :  20:08:56  Show Profile
Larry: Keep your health insurance paid up...

DaveR: That Suzi looks like a nice solution--I like the F-N shifter.
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