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Joel37027
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Initially Posted - 02/22/2008 :  14:26:23  Show Profile
Recently purchased a new motor with electric start and I need to connect the battery cable from the motor to the battery. The battery box is under the starboard settee. I am having a hard time finding a route for the cable from where the cable enters the transom to the battery box. Anyone have any suggestions on routing this cable?
Joel Warren
s/v Belle Amie C25 SR/SK #4711
Harbor Island Yacht Club
Old Hickory, TN
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  14:47:15  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
All you need to do is get to the battery switch, that is connected to the batteries. Many have a set of terminals in the fuel locker, (don't know what year boat you have so don't know if you have a fuel locker), they have wire from the sail locker side of the common wall between the sail locker and fuel locker that goes to the battery switch. That line is permanent. The line from the motor runs through the scupper, into the fuel locker and to the side of the terminal studs found there. Some of us have installed trolling motor plugs in the cockpit.
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Joel37027
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  15:21:52  Show Profile
Best as I can tell my boat (1984) has no wiring/connections in these areas for the motor.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  21:13:36  Show Profile
Pearl has receptacle mounted in the transom high above the water line and well sealed. Wiring travels along the teak trim covering the hull deck joint to a pvc pipe down to the bilge and forward to the switch and battery compartment.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  21:24:20  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joel37027</i>
<br />Best as I can tell my boat (1984) has no wiring/connections in these areas for the motor.
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Right, so put them in. All it takes is two SS bolts some nuts and some wire.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  21:33:40  Show Profile
I also have an '84 boat. I'm not saying it is the best set-up, but a prior owner ran 2 fairly heavy wires from the battery box aft under the double berth to the area under the little shelf at the stern. There is an access hole in the transom barely large enough for the leads from the motor (see picture - chrome cover at bottom left corner by the engine mount), and they connect inside to the heavy wires with nuts and bolts, which are then heavily taped.

Edited 2/23/88 added pic from motor mount replacement project. Unfortunately, the motor in the pic is my 5 hp manual start, so it doesn't show the wires going into the boat.
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Joel37027
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  23:16:03  Show Profile
Thanks David, my boat is very similar to yours and this sounds exactly like my configuration. Maybe I can take a look at your's at the next Fleet meeting.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/23/2008 :  11:40:18  Show Profile
Be happy to show it to you next time you come to Nashville. Don't have a trailer, so I'm lake-bound here. My battery leads come out at the stern in that space over the skeg that has the removable wood cover. Not an easy place to work, since you can only reach it on your belly.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/23/2008 :  11:43:20  Show Profile
Dave 5041, do you have a picture you can post of the receptacle. I really should rework how my leads from the motor go into the boat.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/23/2008 :  17:56:53  Show Profile
It is evening now, but we are sailing down to Ft. Pickens and the gulf tomorrow. I will take a picture before we leave and post it later. When closed, it looks very similar to dmplic's post on this thread
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/24/2008 :  13:16:37  Show Profile
Beautiful day for sailing to Ft. Pickens, unfortunately the breeze is 0 - 3 kts. I posted at full resolution for detail.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/24/2008 :  13:29:42  Show Profile
Thanks for the pics, Dave. It looks like you are using something like a trolling motor plug, right?
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/24/2008 :  22:22:28  Show Profile
It was on Pearl when I got her, so I am not sure of its origin but that is what it appears to be. The trolling motor plug and receptacle I added to my previous boat was similar but higher current capacity, but it actually powered a trolling motor. It is only a two wire system and I'm sure a trolling motor plug would handle starting current for a small outboard.
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 02/25/2008 :  12:22:57  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Our pic is attached...
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Joel37027
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Response Posted - 02/25/2008 :  13:15:32  Show Profile
Looks like you have two wires coming from your transom, what us the second one?
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 02/26/2008 :  17:05:58  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
The wire attached to the motor is the electric start, the other two are the throttle and shift cables waiting to be hooked up... We have a full remote control setup.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/03/2008 :  11:16:17  Show Profile
Prospector, Do you have an inside shot of the cable routing? I may have to re-route mine.
David
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/03/2008 :  13:57:32  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Sorry dmpilc... I don't, and I likely wouldn't be able to get around to taking one for a while. I have many many kettles in the fire right now. I'll try to remember to take one next time I'm in the boat.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/03/2008 :  14:51:51  Show Profile
That's okay. Don't worry about it. I'm guessing that your thru-the-transom hole goes through above the shelf so you would have a straight shot forward for your remote control box cables.
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/04/2008 :  08:48:17  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
yup - thats pretty much it.
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/04/2008 :  08:48:51  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
yup - thats pretty much it.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 03/04/2008 :  10:56:34  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I bring my wires in the same way. My thru-the-transom hole is right behind the cockpit center so it's a tight fit but was able to make it work.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/06/2008 :  17:20:15  Show Profile
Prospector and DaveR,
What hardware fitting did you use for the thru-the-transom hole? I want something that looks nice and is water-tight. There is a gizmo in the 2008 Defender catalog, page 292, called a Blue sea Cable Clam which comes in 3 sizes. Did you use something like that and, if so, what size do you recommend?
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/10/2008 :  13:16:37  Show Profile
After buying the Rule thru-hull fitting, I decided to give the original routing hole under the clam shell vent cover one more look to see if I could make it any bigger before drilling a new hole in the transom. See pic above at my 2/22/08 posting. I GOT LUCKY. With a knife, I was able to remove the old water sealing caulk by the PO, making the hole just big enough for my new motor's larger cable. It was a very tight fit, but it went in and I'm now hooked up to the boat's main battery.
No big loss, the Rule fitting was only $7.95 from Defender, so into my supply drawer it goes.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 04/10/2008 :  14:05:56  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Sorry DavidP,
I didn't see your question until just now. I didn't use a thru hull type plug, I just ran the wires through and to my battery in the double berth storage. Sounds like you did the same thing.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/10/2008 :  14:26:07  Show Profile
You might also want to install a battery on-off switch (for a single battery) so you can disable your electric starter from inside the cabin. I put one in the galley, reachable through the companionway...



I routed the cable under the quarterberth to the cabinet, and then back under the quarterberth to the battery compartment.
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