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pcdurand
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Initially Posted - 02/22/2008 :  15:20:11  Show Profile

Hello,

I have a 1985 swing keel with an outboard motor. In my quest to stop all leaks into the cabin I have ended up at the traveler bar. This bar runs from one side of the stern to the other, over the tiller. When it rains, which it does alot on Lake Conroe, water dribbles in from the traveler bar mount in the stern and gets under the quarter berth cushions making a moldy mess. Also the bar is slightly loose. Does anyone know how this bar is removed or tightened? I really don't want to try to squirt caulk in and around the mount.

Thank you,
Patrick
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  17:17:14  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
You are in a very bad place. When I had an '82 I had a traveler like yours and I got serious one day to see how to access it. This is a photo of the bad place;


Once there, look up...


It seems impossible to get to.
I decided that I would install an inspection port that was large enough to facilitate tightening the traveler and replacing the upper gudgeon at the same time. (Considering the upper gudgeon replacement for obvious reasons.)
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/22/2008 :  17:24:55  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
By the way, the leak is often at the scuppers. They are a tube that goes through the layers of cockpit and transom. If the seal around them is poor water can come in at any of those gaps. If you look at the second photo above you will see a tiny bit of water damage to the teak fiddle, that water used to run along the hull liner above the quarter berth and finally drop halfway between the companionway steps and the fiddle; getting my cushions wet. Sealing the scuppers in the cockpit fixed that.
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Klims106
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Response Posted - 02/23/2008 :  16:36:36  Show Profile
Hi Frank
We just bought our C25, Pool Buoy and during our inspection found leaks around the scuppers. We do not seem to find any way to remove them. Does anyone have a good tip about fixing leaks in that area. First thought is to just spread some good silicone around the outter edge of the ring but we read elsewhere that the connection is flexible and we are curious on the longevity of such repair. Any thoughts?

Melissa & JMarc
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 02/23/2008 :  19:09:35  Show Profile
The logical thing is to test the leaks and try to reproduce them in an isolated manner. That is, cover the scuppers completely and spray water on your traveler and then spreay water on the scuppers alone.

If both leak, then you have 2 projects.

My friend with a loose traveler on his 1980 C25 hired a boatyard worker with a good set of sockets to tighten up the traveler. As you can see in the photos, it is really tight up there.

By the way, I am planning to eliminate my through-cockpit-sole scuppers and build new through-transom scuppers because the old, original ones leak a bit, and the plywood core of the cockpit sole has become waterlogged and ruined over the decades. There's another thread on that subject.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/23/2008 :  19:43:23  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I used 4200 and my finger, seems to have worked. It held while I owned the boat.
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