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lewalskim
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Response Posted - 03/07/2008 :  07:05:44  Show Profile
In my earlier post I said that anchors were reviewed in SAIL magazine in the last few months... actually it was October 2006 and titled "Holding Power".

I am still reading articles from about 15 different issues that are next to the porcelain throne. You know, using my time wisely!

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Captain Ballast
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Response Posted - 03/07/2008 :  08:12:43  Show Profile  Visit Captain Ballast's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br />But the ketch isn't anchored from the bowsprit--its mooring pennant appears to go to a deck chock.
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I was making a joke about the thread topic and change of subject matter and how it is all relative. The ketch is only 30 degrees off and Capri near 180.


I will be moored at the southern end of the inland sea which is sandy. Move north and you find gravel and rocky bottom. As you keep moving north it is muddier and primarily a heavily weeded bottom past July. You will find some areas of hard clay but in small well protected bays I'll see lots of mud, weeds and wine bottles.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/07/2008 :  11:57:36  Show Profile
Are you saying you'll have a mooring there? That's a whole 'nother thing... For that combination of bottoms, the Mason Supreme looks like a good bet if you want to make the extra investment. Otherwise the 22# Delta is a good buy. (The 14# is supposed to be sufficient, but in the rocky areas, the 22# will substantially increase your chances of holding.)

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/07/2008 :  13:11:34  Show Profile
You might want to seriously consider 2 anchors. The Mason sounds like a good bet, but adding a backup fluke gives you versatility. They are easy to handle, fold flat, and if you anchor for a few hours a 14 - 16 lb. anchor is a lot easier to retrieve. The knockoffs of the Danforth do not perform as well or as reliably. I keep a Danforth with 12 ft. of chain and 100 ft. of line in the anchor locker for quick deployment and will be adding some kind of claw to port locker storage this year..












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Captain Ballast
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Response Posted - 03/07/2008 :  14:54:49  Show Profile  Visit Captain Ballast's Homepage
I have a huge Danforth, It works very well, just not for shift changes and swinging on her line or heavy weeds. So whatever cost effective anchor is best in those applications, I want it.

Mooring is taken care of, thankfully I have a good system.

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Captain Ballast
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Response Posted - 03/14/2008 :  12:41:21  Show Profile  Visit Captain Ballast's Homepage
Finally placed my first order. I bought a Bruce #22 and a hawser pipe to fit 25' 1/4" chain. I'll put another 50' of rope behind it and lead to the chain locker.

I still need to get a bow roller, but thanks to you all and others, I have a good idea of what to get. I'll post pics of the Capristien when the weather warms up.

If the cost effective Manta (Bruce replica) does the job that I need, why pay more money? If the Manta doesn't do the trick, then I'll get something different. Like I have said before, I take her on day sails and a only a couple weekend cruises a year on Lake Champlain. We'll see...

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 03/16/2008 :  01:22:45  Show Profile  Visit tmhansen's Homepage
Looking at the photo your boat on its mooring I'd like to offer a suggestion to reduce the amount of hunting at anchor. A full explaination is on Arlyn's web pages, which is where I learned how to do this.

We anchor and moor with a bridle that keeps the boat more centered to the wind or current. When on the mooring I take a dock line from the cleat on one side through the mooring and to the cleat on the other side. Then for extra measure I take the line back through the mooring ball and back to the original cleat. This gives me two bridles on the mooring.

For anchoring I use Arlyn's method with a bowline on a bight, to get two big loops. It really does help reduce hunting when the wind is up.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/bridle.html

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Captain Ballast
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 :  08:02:06  Show Profile  Visit Captain Ballast's Homepage
Great suggestion Todd! I'll try it out for sure.

I ended up downsizing to Manta 16.5 and will use 25' of 1/4" chain. Now I have to choose the most compact anchor roller for this claw anchor!

Paid off the shipyard and will be launching mid May!!!!!!!!!

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