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quilombo
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Initially Posted - 03/13/2008 :  17:24:53  Show Profile
hey guys,
last year, right after I bought my cat 25,
we lowered the mast, we did it with three of us, and it really wasn't a problem,
do you think we can raise it(I know the correct terminology is stepping) with three of us again, or would you rec, another means
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 :  18:08:36  Show Profile
there are quite a few old threads about this topic. try the 'search' function using A-Frame or Mast Raising.

Under technical tips, see the tips from 'Bears Abode' he has a good drawing of an A-frame.
I used an A-frame the first couple of times, but now the Admiral and I raise and lower a couple times per year using a winch and my shoulder. The mast weights 60LBS, so its not that big of a deal. Main thing is to know where the shrouds are supposed to be, and where the forestay and backstay are supposed to be.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 :  18:15:24  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Three people lifting is fine, a fourth available to unhook anything that gets caught is perfect. We always hand lift and lower, it is fast, simple and efficient.
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quilombo
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 :  18:17:49  Show Profile
wow, I surprised to hear it only weighs 60 lbs,, is that right??? mine seems so much heavier,,
or maybe Im so much older,,,who knows
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 :  18:33:33  Show Profile
C'mon guys, one of you engineer types ought to explain the weight and fulcrum and balance and all that other stuff (that I don't really understand) that makes the mast feel like it weighs a lot more than 60Lbs.
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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 :  20:20:39  Show Profile
Yes it's good that you can get the mast up with lots of help but I have seen stern pulpits with a special loop and a outboard without a cover. Using a plan with a bridle or A-frame that can hold the mast in position to correct a stay or fitting snag and prevent lowering again or bending some part of your rig. When you bend a turn buckle you shouldn't bend it back which could weaken it. Has anyone ever seen a bent turn buckle? The help without experience usually with a big guy scrambling on the deck looking for what is making the mast go to one side is a moment to remember. Why does the rig shrink over the winter? I like the aids to allow for safety and it protects the help and the boat.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 :  22:10:20  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sweetcraft</i>
Has anyone ever seen a bent turn buckle? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I saw one on my boat after the first time we raised our mast. Problem was too much help. We were in a Navy Marina and had every Marine gadget you can think of - we used a dock crane and then we couldn't figure out how to get the loop from the top of the crane off the top of the mast when it was up, so we got a gantry crane involved and then a big Navy Diver came along and added some muscle - next thing you knew we had the mast up and some bent parts. We had lots of advice and encouragement and offers of assistance...Waddaya callem 'Dock Chair experts', 'Sidewalk Engineers', 'Should Coulda Woulda Guys'
Next time we raised and lowered the Admiral and I did it without help and along with some patience and knowledge of where the rigging is supposed to be.(and of course a lot of help from right here)
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