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Nautiduck
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Initially Posted - 05/22/2008 :  14:55:29  Show Profile
I figure that all our boats could have this issue so am posting it here.

We have a furler and do not need the jib halyard. But, I want the halyard installed just in case we ever need it for something. So, I have it clipped to the mast plate, pulled tight, and cleated to a mast cleat. When sailing in a strong wind it slaps. Now, the sound does not bother me but it drives the Admiral nuts and, of course, that WILL NOT DO!

So, you intrepid sailors, how do you stop this slapping from maddening your favorite wench? I know how to stop it while docked but how about while under sail?



We cannot direct the winds but we can adjust our sails.


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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  15:12:33  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Don Casey in one of his books advocates halyard retainers mounted on the spreaders. They're basically rounded off shallow "U" shapes that you can easily catch the halyard in the crook of, then tighten it down on a cleat to keep it away from the mast.

I can scan that particular improvement from his book & post it here if you'd like. Of course you'd have to drop your mast to make them, as well as drill holes in your spreader(s) to install them.

Maybe a modification of your mast raising technique with a velcro strap out on the spreader(s) to keep the halyard away from the mast, but if you pulled hard enough it'd come free?

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  15:35:31  Show Profile
I'm not familar with the C250. But on my C25, I clip jib halyard to the extra hole in the starboard chainplate for the upper shroud. I make sure the halyard is on the outside of the forward lower. I then tighten it. It stays put while under sail or at anchor. I only move it to the pulpit to lower my mast.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  16:11:22  Show Profile
I clip mine on the port stanchion next to mast.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  17:48:11  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Davy J</i>
<br />I'm not familar with the C250. But on my C25, I clip jib halyard to the extra hole in the starboard chainplate for the upper shroud. I make sure the halyard is on the outside of the forward lower. I then tighten it. It stays put while under sail or at anchor. I only move it to the pulpit to lower my mast.
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bingo, only my jib halyard goes to port and when leaving the boat the main halyard stores the same way to starboard.


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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  18:18:27  Show Profile
The PO installed cleats on both of the aft lower shrouds. The top horn of the cleat has an eye in it. My halyards go there. Why not secure the headsail halyard to a short loop of line attached to the bow pulpit. That will keep it out of the way of your furler.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  21:20:46  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
I flip the halyards around the speaders so that they are well clear of the mast. No slapping around up there!

Paul

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  08:42:24  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />I flip the halyards around the speaders so that they are well clear of the mast. No slapping around up there!

Paul
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I used to do that but became concerned about abrasion on the shrouds in high wind. That is why I take a straight path to the chainplates.

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  11:27:20  Show Profile
Randy,

I have tried three solutions.
1) Tie the halyard to the bow pulpit. It works.
2) Tie the halyard to the stanchion. It can get in the way on close-haul.
3) Tie the halyard to the chainplate. I couldn't get mine to clip so I used a small line to make a loop.
4) Loosen the halyard. I tried this underway. It slaps more when it's tight.

Russ

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  14:17:57  Show Profile
Thanks folks! I will try the stanchion or chainplate ideas. I don't see how the hayard could go to the bow pulpit while under sail without getting in the way of the jib/furler.

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