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Davy J
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Initially Posted - 05/23/2008 :  10:46:49  Show Profile
Does anybody store a whisker pole on a track vertically on the mast? If so, what type of track, fittings etc. Forespar has a fitting for this purpose, but they are very proud of it at about $250.00+.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  12:32:13  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Just as an alternative, I really like my solution. I use a couple of SS rings, one fixed at the bow pulpit and one sliding along the lifeline. That allows the pole to be put away at different lengths if I am so inclined.



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knightwind
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  13:16:15  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Frank Hopper</i>
<br />Just as an alternative, I really like my solution. I use a couple of SS rings, one fixed at the bow pulpit and one sliding along the lifeline. That allows the pole to be put away at different lengths if I am so inclined.



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I like your solution...I've been meaning to ask what your supposed to do with this when not using it.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  13:33:47  Show Profile
Dave, I have been storing my whisker pole on a track the mast for years and it I love it. It deployes and stows rapidly and is out of the way when not in use. As far as fittings are concerned, shop around. I'm sure you can find parts to assemble your own arrangement for far less than $250. The hardest thing to find (and the costliest) is probably the sliding ring that will go on the track that the pole hooks into, but even that shouldn't cost more than $75. sorry I don't have photos of my rig handy right now but if you are intersted I can take some next week and post them.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  13:34:58  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Catalina Direct has a track kit for this application but I don't remember the cost. I installed it several years ago. Installation is simple but there isn't a bracket for securing the pole upright on the mast.

One of our members,John Vining, stores his on the mast track. He cut a slot in a 4" piece of 3" pvc pipe and installed it on his mast to secure the pole. It pole fits snuggly in the pvc pipe and is easy to remove when the pole is needed. I believe he posted a picture in the archives.

I like Frank's idea. Fewer holes in the mast.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  14:17:16  Show Profile
Dave here are two of the fittings you need to store your pole on the mast track:
[url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/9119/377%20710%201773/0/Downwind%20Poles%20&%20Cars/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710%201773&Ne=0&Ntt=Downwind%20Poles%20&%20Cars&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&page=CategoryDisplayLevel1&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=341&classNum=10899 "]West Marine part link[/url]
And [url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/49497/377%20710%201773/0/Downwind%20Poles%20&%20Cars/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710%201773&Ne=0&Ntt=Downwind%20Poles%20&%20Cars&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&page=CategoryDisplayLevel1&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=341&classNum=10899"]Other link[/url]
You also might want to consider adding a topping lift on the pole.
PS: sorry for the long code strings (edit Fhopper)

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  14:38:09  Show Profile
Thanks Renzo. Do you happen to know the diameter of the ring? Did you use 1" or 1 1/4" Track? How long is the track? I am concerned about the number of holes to drill and tap, was that a problem? I'm guessing that the fixed mount ring is located close to the bottom of the mast, correct?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  15:30:52  Show Profile
Just don't use that Spin pole slide any higher than you can reach easily if it has a spring loaded lock. You'll never get it unlocked. I prefer stanchion storage.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  15:50:12  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Davy J</i>
<br />Thanks Renzo. Do you happen to know the diameter of the ring? Did you use 1" or 1 1/4" Track? How long is the track? I am concerned about the number of holes to drill and tap, was that a problem? I'm guessing that the fixed mount ring is located close to the bottom of the mast, correct?
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Sorry Dave I don't remember the ring diameters or track dimentions.and I won't be going down to the boat til next week. I think I used a 3 or 4 foot track. I drilled and tapped the holes in the mast and used short stainless steel machine screws with the appropriate type of Locktite on the screw threads to attach the track. The number of holes is determined by the length of track which comes with pre-drilled holes at regular intervales along its length. Drilling the holes in the mast is no problem, other than the aluminum is harder than you would think if you've never done it before. Just be sure to use a drill bit stop so that you don't drill too far into the mast and nick a wire or internal haylard.
You are correct on the position of the fixed mounting ring.

Frank thanks for fixing the long code strings. Is that something I should be able to do myself? If so, how?

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  16:01:17  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />Just don't use that Spin pole slide any higher than you can reach easily if it has a spring loaded lock. You'll never get it unlocked. I prefer stanchion storage.
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Not true. I have recently perminantly disabled the spring lock on my slide. But before that, on the occasions when it has accidentally locked in the up position. I just would climb up on the mast winches to release it. I know it sounds hairy but it only takes a moment and I've done it during races in heavy air and I'm no 22 year old deck monkey.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/23/2008 :  17:21:22  Show Profile
I created two mounting spots, one inside and one out. For each the basic item is a 1/8" coated cable loop.

Here are pix of the stanchion mounts:



Here are pix of the cabin mounts:



I used bimini fittings for the stanchion mounts.

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