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Initially Posted - 08/06/2008 :  08:08:21  Show Profile  Visit leebitts's Homepage
I noticed last night when I got off my boat that the spreaders seemed to be drooping a bit. Can't say that I remember if they have always done that or not but it does seem from a structural standpoint that they should be parallel with the deck. Is this correct? Any suggestions on how to repair without taking the mast down?

LeeBitts
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Response Posted - 08/07/2008 :  05:46:11  Show Profile  Visit leebitts's Homepage
I just read the architectural drawings (in Manuals and Brochures) and if I'm reading it right it looks to be showing that the spreaders should be pointing up 5 degrees, can anyone confirm that? I'm going to try pushing the end up with my spinnaker pole. Any thoughts?

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Response Posted - 08/07/2008 :  07:52:10  Show Profile
I discovered a similar problem when I purchased my boat. The spreaders were very loose and could move up and down about 15 degrees. First I thought about trying to tie the outboard end of the spreader to the shroud, but decided that would not be satisfactory. After a little research and question asking, I determined that the spreader should be relatively rigid and as you say at a 5 degree angle up from horizontal as well as the foil should be rotated 8 degrees up relative to the axis of the boat. Upon closer inspection I found that the mast end of the spreaders was fatigued and stretched so that a rigid connection was no longer possible. Additionally I discovered that my mast fitting was different then the one depicted in the Catalina Yacht's drawings that are available. I solved the problem by purchasing new foil sections from a website. I don't remember the profile, but I can look it up and provide it for you if you desire to go that route. I think the pair cost me about $75.00. I cut and drilled them to match the existing and they fit onto the mast fitting perfectly and I now have a very rigid spreader connection. I also replaced the spreader tips, could not find a type similar to my existing tips but the same website that sold the spreader section also sold tips to match and they seem to work fine.

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Response Posted - 08/08/2008 :  16:00:29  Show Profile  Visit leebitts's Homepage
Hi Joe,

If you could find the website that had them that would be great

Many thanks

charlie

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Response Posted - 08/09/2008 :  08:09:03  Show Profile
I purchased spreaders from www.RigRite.com.
The model number was K-SP22.
I bought 32" for each spreader and trimmed them with a radial arm saw to the exact length of the originals.
I also bought new spreader tips K-10777P, but I think the originals would have worked fine.
I'll try to email you a couple of .pdf files that represent what my boats fittings look like.
Like I said, I've seen drawings for two different mast fittings for this boat and one type will not work with this spreader in my opinion (because of the internal extrusions).
My memory was off on the price, the cost was more like $75.00 each instead of for the pair. Sorry.

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Response Posted - 08/09/2008 :  08:46:46  Show Profile
Well Charlie, I can't figure out how to post any drawings to this forum.
So, you can view the spreader blade drawing on the Manuals & Brochures/Capri 25/Selected Architectural Drawings .pdf page (you've probably already seen this). Page 12 is the same drawing I have. Page 13 is for the mast fitting I do NOT have. I have another Catalina drawing of the "Spreader Assembly" drawing no. A-2 dated 8/5/80. I do not remember where I got this drawing, but it is not on this forum website where I can find. If you would like a copy of this drawing then email me at joearcht@jwha.net and I'll attach it to the reply.

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Response Posted - 08/10/2008 :  07:29:14  Show Profile  Visit leebitts's Homepage
Thanks Joe, I did send you my email address for the pdf. On Tuesday when I am next at the boat, I think I'm going to try clipping two haylards together with a line coming down attached to them. By hooking the two haylards together I think I can make a loop under the spreader and if I can get it to the end of the spreader, just ooch them up a tiny bit.

Then do spreader replacement next year.

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Response Posted - 08/10/2008 :  07:52:45  Show Profile
I think you will find that they are easy to push back up. Mine were not attached to the shrouds in any way. The drawing shows a wedge, but mine did not have that. After pushing mine back up and sailing again, I noticed they would work themselves back down, due to the tensioning and relaxing of the shrouds during various conditions. Tightening the shrould would probably benefit in keeping the spreader up longer, but may have other disadvantages to the rig.

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Response Posted - 08/12/2008 :  18:26:21  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
I fixed mine with some thick 1/8" leather. I wrapped the mast end of the spreader, wrapped rigging tape around the leather, then refitted it into the bracket. I used stainless bolts washers and locknuts to attach.

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Response Posted - 08/31/2008 :  08:26:05  Show Profile  Visit leebitts's Homepage
I'm not going to do a permanent solution until the end of the season. I did come up with a nifty way to straighten them out though. I attached a line to a halyard shackle, then attached the shackle to the shroud and raised it up. It lifts the spreader up just nice, then pull the line down.

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