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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 10/01/2008 : 11:55:13

Indiscipline, hull number 398, is 30 years old today! From the HIN I know she was built in October 1978. I have all the original receipts, paperwork, and order form. Indiscipline cost $15,500 in 1978.

This boat is a testament to Catalina Yachts. The boat has been in salt water year round for 30 years. No trailer, ever. She has been raced and cruised hard, by me, and by the string of POs.

The boat is in really good condition. There are no blisters on the hull, and no rust on the keel (epoxy encapsulated 6 years ago). There are spider cracks at many places in the gel coat, but nothing serious.

The worst flaws after all this time: orange deck is faded. Stern pulpit is cracked. There are some very minor spots of deck delamination (you can't feel them but you can hear some when sounding with a hammer). Windows and deck leaks have been repaired and the plywood backing is sound except around the stern light. The deck under the mast is solid. All stanchions have been replaced. The mast and boom are painted white and there is some paint bubbling under all the stainless fittings indicating corrosion, especially on the boom.

The keel bolts are still in place but rusted to the size of #2 pencils. I have 6 new 3/4 inch stainless bolts sistered along side.

This year alone, from March 11 until today, I have sailed 1303 miles. I have sailed nearly 2000 miles per year every year I have owned her. I sail in all weather, in big seas, and strong winds. I have been as far as 50 miles offshore, in seas to 8 feet, and winds to 30 knots.

30 years old, and Indiscipline recently placed 3rd in the 43 mile Oceanside to San Diego race.

Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 12:18:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JimB517
 ...This boat is a testament to Catalina Yachts...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...and to her owner!

Hey, is that smoke coming out of the companionway? (Sorry--bad dream.)

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piseas
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 12:31:15

Jim, I dare say, they don't build them like the good old days anymore. Happy Birthday Indiscipline!

Steve A

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 12:59:38

It only goes to show that anything well made and lovingly cared for, will last a lifetime.......well, almost anything.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 13:24:13

Sounds like she has had some very loving owners over the years. congratulations.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 13:30:30

I forgot to mention much of the boat has been rewired after a PO applied wire chaffed through and burned. The PO applied wire was proper marine grade and properly mounted and supported up and out of the bilge. After many years the mounting of the wire to the hull cut through the insulation.

Dave was on board and we were about 9 miles out of Mission Bay.

A big Catalina flaw was to glass wires inside the deck. Also all the wires are copper, not tinned marine grade, and dumped in the bilge, not in wire runs as would be ABC standards. I've been over them all pretty carefully after the fire (which was stopped by simply turning off the 2 way battery switch).

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 13:42:28

Man! smokin!

I'll have to make sure the admiral reads this so to avoid a panic should it ever happen.

I'm sure that over the years there has been other events that caused a few gray hairs, but just look at those numbers, awesome!

What's your next big trip Jim?

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 10/01/2008 : 21:15:00

hey jim b
i think they should give you cars and appliances that they want to see how long things will last.
you would be a good tester.

good testiment that even though our boats are production made they do last.

i treat my boat like it's the 1958 chevy impala i never had.
it looks brand new.

have a goo fall in SD.

dave holtgrave
5722 sk/tr
sailing a cooler carlyle lake in southern illinois.

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