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Walt Oler
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Initially Posted - 11/16/2008 : 21:49:43

We have completed the trek to the Corpus Christi Municipal Marina with our 1982 C25 TR/FK. We got it in the water on Friday but the winds were too high to sort out the sails on Saturday. This is our first big boat so we are taking it slowly. But, we will be back in Corpus in 4 weeks (our home is in Lubbock which is about an 8 1/2 hr drive)and will try it again then.

So, if you sail in Corpus, please look us up on Pier R, slip 93.

Regards,
Walt & Kathy

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smoken
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 08:09:54

Way to go Walt. Pictures look good and the weather looks pretty good. Your in a great area to cruise.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 12:20:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Walt Oler
 But, we will be back in Corpus in 4 weeks (our home is in Lubbock which is about an 8 1/2 hr drive)...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I'll never again complain about the 20 or so minutes it takes me to drive to my boat.

Have you looked into flights?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 12:42:24

Congratulations Walt & Kathy and welcome to the forum. Good pictures. I'm sure you are going to have great times with the boat. Does she have a name? 8 1/2 hours away, wow! My hat's off to you. For us, that's about like driving to the Gulf Coast. We took our C-22 down there a few years ago to Mobile Bay. Swore I'd charter one before doing that again.

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glivs
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 16:32:34

Walt & Kathy,
Great looking boat! They shine up nicely don't they? One suggestion - find a way to protect your bright work. That Texas sun is very unforgiving and you want to spend your time sailing not on maintenance. Maybe a winter project. Have fun!

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 17:00:13

Walt & Kathy, when I was frequenting Port Aransas (30 miles closer to the gulf than Corpus) I was told by a lady who detailed boats for a living, that 3 coats of Cetol followed by 2 coats of Cetol gloss would stand up better (like 6 months to a year longer) than 12 coats of Varnish in a salt water environment.

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Walt Oler
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 17:28:13

Thanks for the advice on the brightwork. We are actually a little frustrated with that. We sanded all of it and then coated with teak oil - no varnish. A month later we started noticing small black dots that are growing. Evidently the teak oil is a good place for mold to grow. Any suggestions for this problem?

Lubbock is right in the middle of the Texas high plains. From here, it's 6-9 hours to anywhere: Dallas, Albuquerque, Austin, El Paso, Denver or Wichita. It gives us a little bit different perspective on distance. Clearly, day sails are out of the question. We will have to wait until we can put at least 4 days together and will spend a lot of nights on the boat.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 19:18:47

Walt - teak oil is probably the worst thing to use in Texas. It will mildew/mode in about a month.

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joemireur
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 20:09:40

I agree with others who say to use Cetol. Not that I know so much about it, but I have just finished cleaning and oiling my hatchboards. I live close enough to go to Seabrook once a week. When I returned a week after installing the hatchboards, they were turning gray again. I asked locals and they said Cetol also. So my next project is my last project.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 21:16:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Derek Crawford
 ...3 coats of Cetol followed by 2 coats of Cetol gloss would stand up better (like 6 months to a year longer) than 12 coats of Varnish in a salt water environment.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...and if the varnish cracks, splits, or wears, you pretty much have to remove it all. The biggest beauty of Cetol is that you can just touch up and add annual protective coats. A light rub with a Scotchbright pad is a good idea. The gloss coat is optional and adds little or no UV protection--I prefer the satin finish of regular Cetol--a matter of taste.

When you start from scratch, sand down to fresh red teak, wipe down with acetone to remove some surface oil, and then apply about four coats of Cetol. Then clean with a mild detergent solution and overcoat once a year--it's quick and easy with a little foam brush.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 11/17/2008 : 21:28:06

The PO of my boat used Cetol on the brightwork and two years later with no work on my part to maintain, it still looks like the day I bought it. I'll probably put a new coat on it next spring.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 07:49:52

Oh no the cetol/oil thing again! Do you want the natural look of oil that will last all season? Do you not want to have the huge job of eventually removing cetol or varnish? [url="http://www.allguardproducts.com/"]Teakguard[/url] is fantastic! I did my wood in April or May (in FL) and it's still looking natural and great.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 09:37:47

Walt, great job on finding such a gem of a boat. I have owned two and I like the Catalina 25 very much. Yours seems to be stock, which is great because you get to make all the decisions for yourself. The first thing most do is move that winch from the mast to the starboard side of the cabintop and lead the halyards back. If you search the forum you will find lots of discussions of the various deck layouts and their advantages. You may find some helpful ideas at my pages, most photos will download at a fairly high resolution so you can enlarge them for detail. The boats bothe evolved so you will see different solutions in different photos.
Swedes are known for their craftsmanship so wee will expect Miracles! (We Dutch/English will sail anything, even an old shoe.)

http://web.mac.com/fhopper/Sailing_Catalina_25_Sailboats/My_Gallery.html

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 13:45:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmember
 (We Dutch/English will sail anything, even an old shoe.)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...or two discarded surfboards on edge, lashed to some aluminum pipes.

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larry drake
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 14:28:15

Walt & Kathy if you should be in Corpus Christi during Thanksgiving we would enjoy meeting you both. My wife and I are planning on pulling our 250 WB from Beaumont to Copus Christi next week. We were going to use the City's Municipal Marina.
Cordially,
Larry and Melanie Drake

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Walt Oler
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Response Posted - 11/19/2008 : 22:42:27

Our current favorite for a boat name is "Training Wheels". We hope to retire to a little larger live-aboard in a few years and that seems like an appropriate description for the role of this boat for us.

Pastmember(?), I had already found and bookmarked your galleries. There are a lot of great ideas there. You are right. Our boat is almost completely "stock". To Kathy, that means "classic", leave it alone. To me, it means "let's re-engineer it and make it better".

It seems that running lines to the cockpit will be a big project in terms of time and money. A more immediate question to me is the reefing. It will be easy to set up a single line reefing rig, even if I have to go forward to use it. However, with a tall rig, it seems to me that we will frequently need to go to the second reefing points. How do you rig that? Is it a whole separate set of blocks and a line?

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 11/20/2008 : 10:19:44

I like two line reefing because of the ability to get a good outhaul on the reef clew, which gives you a flat reefed sail; a reefed sail with a big pocket is no reef at all. Feel free to email me through the profile link at the left, I am always happy to talk on the phone too.
One of the things I have seen with my Catalinas is the advantage of the luff jackline which allows the reef tack to go to the goose neck rather than "stand" on a pile of sail slugs. I do not know if that feature can exist with a second reef; sailmaker question. I have wondered if TRs should simply have a single larger reef slab, remember your boom is already a foot lower, a slightly larger single reef would get your center of effort down a long way. Of course being a bluewater boat you may need a second reef regardless. Remember to explain to your wife that a stock boat is a full power boat with no means to reduce power, virtually every sailhandling device has the purpose of reducing power to maintain better/safer control of the boat in high winds; these are toys we add to our boats, they are safety controls.

Frank

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 11/20/2008 : 11:03:42

Walt, with a reefed main and a 110 jib you should be fine in Corpus. On lighter air days you could unreef the main.

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Walt Oler
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Response Posted - 11/23/2008 : 20:53:26

Larry Drake, did you get my email?

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