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Navy1
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Initially Posted - 01/17/2009 : 20:38:57

I have two very good condition, hank on, headsails. Both are Dacron, solid white, with no numbers or markings. The dimensions of the 150% are: luff = 23'10", Leach = 25'7", foot = 15'. The dimensions of the 170% are: luff =23'10", leach = 23'10", foot = 14'6". I will take $350.00 for both sails, plus $50 shipping. Sail bags are included with both sails. If interested e mail me at rlr07@tds.net. Thanks - Roger

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Response Posted - 01/17/2009 : 21:27:44

Based on the dimensions you listed, the 170 is slightly smaller than the 150.
Doesn't make sense. What are the LP measurements?

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Response Posted - 01/17/2009 : 21:50:56

We've had [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18797"]this discussion[/url]

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Response Posted - 01/18/2009 : 16:32:20

David, The only explanation I can give is that I somehow mixed up the measurements between the two sails, because I carefully laid out the two sails on the ground and had my wife help me carefully measure them as close as I could. Your right, the 150's area is larger than the 170, so switch the two. I know that's the measurements we came up with for the two sails. Sorry.

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Response Posted - 01/18/2009 : 19:10:08

Roger, weren't these off of a C22? I think that the confusion is that the percentage measurement is always a relational measurement to the distance from the bow to the mast of the boat("J" distance). So, a 170% for a C-22 might be closer to a 135% for a c-25 or a 110% for a C-30.

Thats why when you look at a loft that sells used headsails, they will usually list them only by their measurements and forego the reference to percentage.

That which determines the percentage is the length of the "Line Perpendicular" compared to the "J" measurement of the boat. The "Line Perpendicular" (LP) is a line from the clew of the sail to the luff such that it forms a 90degree angle at the point it intersects the luff.

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Response Posted - 01/19/2009 : 10:15:07

John, Yes, your right, the sails came with a C22 that I had. But since I never used them, I wasn't sure they were for that boat. I understand what you mean about listing the measurements only, and not the percentages. I am hoping to get some money out of these sails, to put toward a 135% Genoa for my C250. I'm curious John, do you have a photographic memory about these sails coming from a C22? ha ha I have a hard time remembering what I did yesterday. Roger

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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 09:58:41

I'm not in the market for either sail, and I wasn't trying to give you a hard time here or on the other thread. I sincerely hope that you do find a buyer. meanwhile, have you tried either sail on your C250? If you are not using a furler, either sail will be short of but close to the square footage of a 135 for your boat. The luff will be a few feet short and the the foot a little long, but maybe not too long. According to the Sail Warehouse, a furling 135 for a C250 (they don't list a hank-on) has the following dimensions: Luff 28.18' leech 26.5' foot 13.00' and LP 12.20'. Just a thought, plus it might save you about $500.

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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 10:40:18

David, I didn't think you were trying to give me a hard time. I appreciate the information, but I do have a furler on my boat. Some time ago I checked with a sail maker about converting the "hank on" sails to use on my furler, but decided the cost of the retrofit was not practical. If I don't sell the hank on sails I'm wondering if it would be feasible to run a second forestay on the boat to hoist the hank on sails with? The downside of that, since I trailer my boat quite a lot, is it would be more rigging to fool with each time. What do you think? Roger

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Response Posted - 01/22/2009 : 09:53:46

Notice: I have reduced the price of both sails to $295.00, plus shipping. Hope this helps somebody out. Roger

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 21:47:41

Notice: Sails have been sold. Roger

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 22:48:10

Glad you found a buyer!

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