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Kendall
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Response Posted - 02/22/2009 : 19:43:24

Same here, those wind shifts are tricky.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/23/2009 : 10:19:59

That is one crappy area to sail in......Milby may make out by the time the rest of us get out of the sub nine knot New Guinea nightmare

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/25/2009 : 12:13:30

I'll be leaving for my 7 day sail in the BVI's. Champipple is airlifting in the skipper of
Tunggroove to handle tactics and navigation while I'm away. The organizers really should check my vacation and ski schedules before they put one of these races on.

Hopefully the Australian Coast guard can make the skipper exchange efficiently because I don't want to miss my flight. I'll be at the helm through Friday night however.

By the way - Lard butt - you've been running neck and neck with tunggroove most if not all of this race.

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Response Posted - 02/25/2009 : 16:29:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Champipple
 I'll be leaving for my 7 day sail in the BVI's.

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Have a great trip, can you share what charter you are using? I am thinking of a week down there over Thanksgiving.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/25/2009 : 21:18:33

We are going with Footloose charters a sub of Moorings and Sunsail- they are what Buick is to Cadillac...Same car same boat, just not as slick. Actually the boat we are getting was just revamped after coming off a Moorings tour of duty.

Since booking we've come to hear great things about TMM and Horizon.

They're all good. The big question is can they provide you with a boat if the first one they give you craps out.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 02/27/2009 : 21:16:51

Now, how can I possibly lose 70k+ places in less than 15 minutes? I was aground overnight (again), and only lost 3k places. Something's wrong in France...

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 02/28/2009 : 14:27:24

Earlier this week I was sailing faster than most boats in our group for days on end but continued to fall back. Some boats were over 200 miles behind me a week and half ago and are now 500 in front of me. I've noticed over the past few legs that the leaders always seem to have just the wind shift they need to continue pulling ahead of everyone.

I still haven't figured out how they're measuring the distance to the finish. Is it along the orange line or based on a radius from the finish line?

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 08:40:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 I still haven't figured out how they're measuring the distance to the finish. Is it along the orange line or based on a radius from the finish line?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
That has been a puzzlement to me, too, but my theory is that the distance is based on the straightest line to the finish. Presently, we're all being funneled toward Cape Horn, and I think our placement, and our distance to the goal, is based on a straight line from our present position to Cape Horn. After we pass Cape Horn, it'll be based on a straight line to Rio. As we get closer to Cape Horn, it'll become apparent whether or not my theory is correct. If it doesn't mean that, then I'll confess to being clueless.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 13:46:10

It would seem to me that boats East of the orange line would naturally be closer to Cape Horn or the finish line. The boats that were far to East a week or so ago and are now way South continue to be in the lead and now the wind shifts are favoring them to be able to go East now where for the past 5 weeks it's been out of the East discouraging a turn in that direction.

In addition, Joint Decision who is just East and South of me is showing 80 miles in front of me which seems about right and Gambit Cat 25 is showing 107 miles in front of me even though he's South and West of me.

One of the boats I've been racing against is Triton72. If you look online now he's showing 20 miles behind me even though he has to be 500-600 miles due West of me. It just doesn't make any sense!

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 15:31:05

Back from the LakeBoca Great Circle Raft up and lost 17,500 places... not so bad as the boat was left to its self since Friday morning.

Paul

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Kendall
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 21:08:22

Back from camping and gained 3,000 places. <s>Now if i touch it, ill lose another 10,000 places.

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Edit: Now that Ive touched it, I lost another 4,400 places.

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Gambit
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 22:28:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 In addition, Joint Decision who is just East and South of me is showing 80 miles in front of me which seems about right and Gambit Cat 25 is showing 107 miles in front of me even though he's South and West of me.


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It seems that they give you a lot of credit for being south. If the winds keep up as they have been, the guys to the south will pay dearly when they have to tack back to the line. It is pretty swirly up ahead so a little luck could go a long way.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 06:41:33

Yepper... I've gotten myself far west, and I had seen predicted winds from the south near the islands, which would have let me run east, but when I got there the winds were still coming from the E NE. This seems to be a pattern, predicted winds are not well predicted.

Hang the weathermen.

I guess I'm going to just buck up and tack back, I've been waiting days for a more easterly wind as it often predicts, but never happens, always E NE for me.

Short leg first!

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millermg
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 22:32:57

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Back from camping and gained 3,000 places. Now if i touch it, ill lose another 10,000 places.

Edit: Now that Ive touched it, I lost another 4,400 places.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I hadn't logged into my 4 year old son's boat Chickhicks (he made me make it) until 6 days into the race, made a quick course adjustment, and didn't log in again for another 7 days. When I did, I found he was about 5,000 places ahead of me. I think that will be my new strategy on this leg.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 00:00:51

We're taking bets onboard JD as to where the wind will be in 12 hours, I've lost the past two days!

No strain on the crew workload this week, we're settling down to almost routine skippers meetings. (there's a few thousand boats within a half mile of us).
To show how boring it is, we've started to discuss menu items and do we need a bimini. Odly enough, we're doing double the speed of our regular boat (JD on the water that is) and still we're getting b o r e d.

So..... how do you guys prepare your grits? Sourthern or Midwestern style?

Paul

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 04:50:08

I can't believe I hadn't remembered this before! This link explains it much better than I could -->> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_circle

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Kendall
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 12:23:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 I can't believe I hadn't remembered this before! This link explains it much better than I could -->> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_circle
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Is that why, when flying from NYC to London, you pass over the north pole? Same Concept of putting a 3 dimensional figure on a 2 dimensional map.

Did I just sound smart?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 13:50:08

Yep, shortest distance between two points on an oblate spheroid (AKA Earth) is a curve, and exactly why you fly over the pole, although on NYC to London I'd think you wouldn't go that far north. I know when we fly to Singapore/Kuala Lumpur via Tokyo, we fly along the Aleutians to get there.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 16:20:45

If you fly NY to Japan you go over the pole. NY to Europe you fly over Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland, etc.. Not quite as far north.

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Kendall
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 16:38:51

Maybe I meant L.A.X. to London Intl, I guess Im not that smart

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Charlie Boomba
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 19:07:53

Hi gang! I'm new to the group, racing away on Sun Star. Right now I am somewhere north of New Zealand, heading towards Cape Horn.

The South Pacific is lovely. "Bloody Mary is the girl I love....."

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SailCO26
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Response Posted - 03/04/2009 : 08:37:11

Figures, about the time the results show I'm in the lead for the group, we get a noob that's 3k slots ahead of me!

Anybody else see some really odd place shifts overnight? Right now I'm showing Gambit 401nm behind me, but looking at the charts I'd say it's closer to 80nm...

Jim

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/04/2009 : 18:40:26

Welcome Charlie, dumb question, what's your race boats name?

I made up 27,000 positions yesterday! (once I turned ENE)

Time to get out the Code Zero again... wohooooo!

Paul

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 03/04/2009 : 18:56:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">racing away on Sun Star<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I'd guess Sun Star?

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/05/2009 : 09:42:14

The race organizers just announced that the system will be unavailable to the players for scheduled maintenance on Friday 06 March, 2009 from 5am to 7am (GMT +1). During that period, the boats will continue to sail, but we won’t be able to direct them for 2 hours. Am I correct that that time period will take place between 11:00 am and 1:00 pm eastern standard time?

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