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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 04/03/2009 :  10:23:59  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
A friend of mine sent me this link last night: http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/

The closer you zoom in, the more dense the chart data becomes. I've just started looking at it, so I don't know all the capabilities, but if nothing else it's a good way to waste some time at work.

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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  10:37:56  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage
<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="2"><font color="navy">Very cool.
I saw a beta version awhile ago thanks for posting the link.
Does anyone know what can be done with it?
Is there a way to print out small sections?
I'd love to have just a page of a small cove to have in the cockpit when entering a new place.</font id="navy"></font id="size2"></font id="Comic Sans MS">

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John P
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  12:09:45  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
played with this a little this AM and it appears that for printing, it is wysiwyg, which is pretty cool, as you can tailor it for your printer. Now I can look at it at home and dont have to worry about leaving my charts on the boat!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  12:43:22  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
I don't know if this wrong to do or not...

I took my charts to a large format printing shop and had them scanned as PDF's. Now I can manipulate them any number of ways for viewing onboard. A tablet PC is on my wish list, but its so far down that I may never get to it. In the meantime, I can have the laptop down below and zoom, scan, pan etc. whenever I want to without messing up the GPS.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  13:00:08  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
David, Wow, I can even see Piseas II in her slip, closer than Google. What a great tool. I have been using similar site for a while. Its amazing what is available. Coupled with my charts, Magellon GPS and IPhone using iNavX, I hope I am covered.
Steve A

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  13:47:07  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I zoomed way in as well on SL, and I can actually see my spring line reaching out, amazing detail. I can also tell about when the photo was taken, late afternoon in the summer sometime (angle of the sun & direction of the sun) at low-ish tide, plus we installed a new cleat about 15' further north than the one it's tied to in the photo for a better angle of pull. That was done in May about two years ago, so the photos are approaching two years old, at least in my marina.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  13:53:53  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
You guys must get better coverage than I do. It shows the NOAA charts for Georgian Bay, but I don't get the zoom coverage you are talking about.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  14:13:42  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
There are two sliders in the top right of the screen that can adjust the opacity of the chart overlay, maybe you need to back off on the charts to see the satellite photo detail underneath them.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  14:30:56  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Tried it. I think its because NOAA would have charted teh canadian waters, but not necessarily done the flyovers for them. I did look at some marinas on the US side though - its cool to see the channel in th ephoto and how it is related to what is on the chart.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  15:52:07  Show Profile
I use MacENC for charting, and I think they also make NavX for Mac and Iphone. But this is really incredible, even though they don't have such great detail for Brands Marina in Port Clinton. Downloading satellite images to overlay with NOAA will be a great addition for entering new destinations.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  17:14:58  Show Profile
This is awesome! Go NOAA

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  19:14:50  Show Profile
David, I can see some bird poop on your starboard coaming.

Bummer, the photo of our lake was taken in winter and at least two years ago.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  19:34:24  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Nauti - most aerial Photography is done late in the fall or early in the spring. You can't catch shoreline features with leafs over them. Same deal on roads and so on.


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Admin
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  21:37:07  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage
OMG! Peggy is going to freak out when sees that in the morning!

Thats awsome.

I hope that it stays around (note the url 'demo' !!!!)

Paul

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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 09/09/2009 :  09:13:39  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage
<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="2"><font color="navy">Is there a trick to printing the charts?
I only get the satellite view when try to print it out.

I hope every one had a great Labor Day. I got on Peregrine on Sunday and went back ashore on Tuesday night.
I love this time of year the wind is back and the temps are moderate.</font id="navy"></font id="size2"></font id="Comic Sans MS">

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 09/10/2009 :  06:26:32  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
If all else fails Paul, do a print screen and use your art/photo program to paste and print. And folks, this IS Google Earth stuff, just incorporated by NOAA, it's no better.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 09/11/2009 :  10:17:19  Show Profile
Charts! Wow, such interesting things. On our C34 Message Board, many times we, like you, refer questioners to the search engine for the basics of material that has been posted so repeatedly as to make you wonder why the question keeps coming up. Kinda like: will a short shaft outboard work on my C25? How long should my new halyards be? What's the mast height? That kinda stuff.

Additionally, we remind folks that the "static" portion of our website has a lot of valuable information, just like yours does. The Message Board is NOT the only part of the website, be zany, go read it, please!

We, like you, have posted topics like "Critical Upgrades, Do These or Else!" which, one would think, might get someone's attention. Part of that topic says: "We can tell you all these great things, but we can't make anyone DO something, even if it helps them and keeps their boat from sinking or catching fire."

Well, seems the same is true of charts. I got an email recently from a serious and well respected racer in our area: "How do you get into Clipper Cove? Are there any special things I should know about?"

Holy stuffing, Batman, read the blinkin' chart! It is on the paper charts. It is on your GPS. It is on the NOAA charts on the internet. It is on the new booklet charts. It's on the Maptech charts and CD-ROM. It's on Google Earth's geogarage new 'site, which are the superimposed NOAA charts.

And each one of 'em clearly shows the 3 foot deep HUGE bar that closes off all but the northernmost 300 feet of the cove to anything but a dinghy when the water depth is 0 feet (to datum reference, of course) or less.

So, all that information's out there.

The jerks still don't get it and won't bother reading it. They're too busy asking questions instead of reading what's available, or even bothering to read the answers. Or the bloomin' chart!

Rant over, thanks for listening!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/13/2010 :  09:01:05  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
I don't get this opening properly anymore. Do you guys? Maybe I'm not computer literate enough.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/13/2010 :  14:41:53  Show Profile
I just went there and opened it without a problem.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/13/2010 :  16:37:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stu Jackson C34</i>
<br />...Well, seems the same is true of charts. I got an email recently from a serious and well respected racer in our area: "How do you get into Clipper Cove? Are there any special things I should know about?"

Holy stuffing, Batman, read the blinkin' chart! It is on the paper charts. It is on your GPS. It is on the NOAA charts on the internet. It is on the new booklet charts. It's on the Maptech charts and CD-ROM. It's on Google Earth's geogarage new 'site, which are the superimposed NOAA charts.

And each one of 'em clearly shows the 3 foot deep HUGE bar that closes off all but the northernmost 300 feet of the cove to anything but a dinghy when the water depth is 0 feet (to datum reference, of course) or less.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">And yet, we repeatedly read how important it is to combine "Local Knowledge" with charts when sailing in unfamiliar water. So, which is it, read the blinkin' chart or use local knowledge?

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