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vagabond II
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Initially Posted - 05/28/2009 :  15:03:39  Show Profile
Is there anyone out there that has sistered the keel bolts in a 1981, Std. rig, fixed keel, dinette configuration C25.
I am mostly interested in the problems associated with cutting the dinette away to access the bilge.

Ben Brooks
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michaelj
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Response Posted - 06/03/2009 :  05:34:37  Show Profile
I have a standard rig 25 and my dinette folds up and stores nicely against the forward bulkhead which separates the main cabin from the head. I can send yuou some pictures if you would like.
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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 06/03/2009 :  05:56:35  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by michaelj</i>
<br />I have a standard rig 25 and my dinette folds up and stores nicely against the forward bulkhead which separates the main cabin from the head. I can send yuou some pictures if you would like.
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That's not a dinette, Michael: that's a table. The dinette configuration has two seats and a table 90 degrees from yours.
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islander
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Response Posted - 06/03/2009 :  14:36:16  Show Profile
Why would you have to cut anything? I have the dinette and you can access the keel bolts from inside the storage area under the two seats. You can use a right angle drill if needed. I have not done this so I'm just guessing.(1987 with stainless bolts) Maybe some member will jump in here that has done this on a dinette model.
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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 06/03/2009 :  15:19:52  Show Profile
I do not have a dinette model but you will <i>NEVER</i> be able to apply enough pressure to drill bolts with a right-angle drill if you have a cast iron keel. Lead would probably be possible though but you would still need room to tap the holes. If you have a cast iron keel you could probably cut access ports to allow you direct overhead access if none is available. Even if it is lead, the access ports would make it a much simpler task.
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Response Posted - 06/03/2009 :  19:26:29  Show Profile
A couple of Beckson inspection plates should do it. Similarly, people have put one on the inside of the transom in the cockpit to replace the upper gudgeon.
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vagabond II
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Response Posted - 06/04/2009 :  08:37:21  Show Profile
The reason I was planing to cut the dinette away was to make room for using a magnetic base drill.
Using the existing keel bolts, I thought I would mount a steel plate and use that as platform for the drill.
However, the Beckson plate offers possibility.
I could start out with a 1/4 pilot drill and then drill in increments to the 1/2-13 tap drill, which is 27/64
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/04/2009 :  09:15:14  Show Profile
[url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1071"]Catalina Direct's kit[/url] for this includes a looooooong drill bit and tap...
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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/04/2009 :  09:35:00  Show Profile
[quote]<i>Originally posted by vagabond II</i>
<br />Is there anyone out there that has sistered the keel bolts in a 1981, Std. rig, fixed keel, dinette configuration C25.
I am mostly interested in the problems associated with cutting the dinette away to access the bilge.

Ben Brooks
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Ben, I have an 83 dinette and it was a swing keel boat that I had converted to the wing keel.
When the yard did this they opened up a 5" by the space between the two dinette benches for the bolts to attach the wing. In addition they used a 5" round inspection plate aft of the aft bench to mount the last bolt. This was all that was necessary to mount the keel. The same should also apply in your situation. The span between benches was covered with a piece of varnished teak, like a door saddle

Val still on the hard(dang rotator cuff) DAGNABIT, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.
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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/04/2009 :  09:42:49  Show Profile
Ben...It's been a while but there was another bolt in the rear dinette seat base

Val
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tod
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Response Posted - 06/04/2009 :  13:38:45  Show Profile
Deric, I can't picture a hatch that you could leave open on the port side of your cockpit. Is it designed to be a vent?
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txbigfoot
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Response Posted - 06/09/2009 :  04:45:38  Show Profile
I have the stainless all thread if you are interested in a 2 foot length. enough for 3 or 4 bolts. and a long pilot. we put sister bolts on a 22 fin keel and have lots left.
Dan
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