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NautiC25
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Initially Posted - 06/07/2009 : 07:54:30

I'm going out of state to buy my C25, and am not experienced in out of state transfers. Do I use the standard sale document from the current state, or do I bring one from my own state........? I'll be heading over there during the weekend, so I won't be there when a title office is open.

Also, when dealing with a boat transporter, what kind of documents or insurance do I need to look for and ask him about? He comes recommended from the seller's marina, but I want to cover my bases.

Thanks.

1989 C-25 TR/WK #5894
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Sittin' in LCYC on Canyon Lake, Texas

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/07/2009 : 08:53:39

We bought our boat in Iowa and towed her back to Oregon. The Assignment of Title and Title Certificate were both from the State of Iowa. When we got back to Oregon we worked with the State of Oregon Marine Board to acquire Oregon title and registration using the Iowa documents. Transferring the trailer title and registration was done through the State of Oregon DMV again using the Iowa documents.

I believe this is the standard practice. You use the current boat home state documents and then transfer them when you get back home to your state.

We trailered our C250 home so I can't provide advise about transport but I would want to be certain they have insurance and can provide references.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/07/2009 : 09:04:03

Nice find! It depends on the states involved, but here's what I think, i.e. only my opinion. First, make sure you know what your state requires in the way of documentation. If you are buying from an individual, you most likely will not pay sales/use tax at the time of purchase. You'll bring the bill of sale and properly executed title, if there is one, to your home state's registration authority and pay the sales/use tax to your state when you register the boat. If buying from a dealer in the other state, tell the dealer you are shipping out of state. They may not charge sales tax. If they do, you will get credit for the tax paid when you register the boat in your home state.
I've never dealt with a transporter, so I can't comment from personal experience. If it were me, however, I would get the HIN from the seller, call my insurance agent, and try to get a binder issued before the boat leaves the yard. I would require an ACCORD form from the shipper showing proof of insurance and make sure you understand what liability he is responsible for and what you are responsible for during transport.
I've heard others say it is wise to remove all loose gear from the boat, including VHF radio, but not necessarily the cushions. You don't want things bouncing around inside while on the road. And watch how the shipper secures the boat & mast on the trailer.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/07/2009 : 09:11:39

Congratulations! You got the pick of the litter! (Keep your head down.

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Edited by - Dave Bristle on 06/07/2009 09:12:38

islander
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Response Posted - 06/07/2009 : 14:08:47

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">First, make sure you know what your state requires in the way of documentation. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> Very important. I bought IMPULSE from a man in Connecticut. Now Conn. does not have boat titles. I go to N.Y DMV and they tell me a title is required to reg the boat in N.Y. I'm not going to get into the whole story here, lets just say they made me jump through hoops to get the boat registered.

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Unsinkable2
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Response Posted - 06/08/2009 : 10:14:26

I bought in California and registered in Utah - no problems with just the title.

A few years ago I sold a sailboat, which has changed hands twice since then and I lost track of it. Then 2 months ago I got a call from the Nevada Fish and Game - apparently the interim owners had never registered the boat and the current owner was trying to put it in a slip but my name was still on the old title. It just took a minute for them to fax a paper up for me to sign and fax back.

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Rich G
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Response Posted - 06/08/2009 : 10:43:38

I bought Cerberus in Massachussetts which also does not require titles (I think. It's been a while). To register the boat in NY, I had to present the bill of sale along with the registration (which acts as title in MA). I also had to pay NY sales tax.

However, I did get to sail from Buzzards Bay to NYC for my first passage. That was awesome!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/09/2009 : 08:40:05

Jonathan... How'd the weekend work out?

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 06/09/2009 08:40:41

NautiC25
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Response Posted - 06/09/2009 : 09:30:06

It's this weekend. So far I'll start driving at 3-4am, to get there around noon. Then hopefully complete the sale and have the boat ready for the hauler later in the day. He'll then deliver it mid-week. I just wish I could be there for more time than I will be.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 06/10/2009 : 16:50:46

Take ALL the paperwork you got when purchasing your boat (and your check book) to where you will title and register it...they'll be happy to tell you what you need to do and to take your money.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/10/2009 : 17:01:15

Many state BMVs now have a website where they provide answers to such questions, and where you can download copies of the state forms and applications that you'll need. If you don't find the answers there, they have telephone answer lines. I recently bought a motorcycle in New Jersey, will ride it in Maryland this summer, and licensed and titled it in my home state of Ohio. I got all the information I needed from the website and telephone calls.

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cat25
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Response Posted - 06/11/2009 : 12:39:29

I would recomend getting a surveyor to check the boat out. I Went to michigan from ny to look at a cat 25 from a private seller. I liked the boat and put a deposit on it pending a surveyors report. I insured the boat and returned the folling weekend. The survey was great. I bought the boat. I had a bill of sale wih me that we both signed. The seller also signed over the title with no liens on it to me. I went to the mvd. and got a temporary plate for the trailer. Took two days for the return trip towing the boat 640 miles with a 2002 trailblazer. Then I regerested the boat in ny. Good luck

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 06/11/2009 : 13:22:25

I found that there's about 6 forms I need to fill out, and that's just on my end. Boat, motor, serial # rubbings, etc. He needs to fill out a registration form. So much to do. Then I need to pay 6.25% tax, and the price of gas is going up every day so it's raising my shipping cost every day. Ugh....

Here's the one:

I've got more, but I'll save them for when it's officially mine.

Edited by - NautiC25 on 06/11/2009 13:29:16

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/11/2009 : 13:58:47

She's a beauty! I've always thought the Catalina 25 was one of the most beautiful 25' boats of this era. She just looks like a sailboat should look.

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cat25
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Response Posted - 06/12/2009 : 01:46:34

Beautiful boat. You stated she has a tall rig so is mine. Im interested in the bimini set up for the tall rig. Thanks ken

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