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AADIVER
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Initially Posted - 07/18/2009 :  20:24:29  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
I understand how this mooring hook gets a mooring line attached, but how does it remove the line when leaving the mooring?



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delliottg
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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  03:06:02  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I'm not sure how it works exactly, but I found a PDF that showed some sort of operator line that compresses the gate against the body. I'm not sure how helpful that is, or how the operator line is rigged.

We have a dedicated mooring line thingy that attaches to the end of our boathook. I can't remember who makes it, but it allows you to pick up a mooring by hooking it, and as you pull back, it passes the line through the mooring ring for you. When you want to leave, you just untie the mooring line from your cleats and let one end run through the ring and you're free. Pretty easy. The most difficult part if actually grabbing the mooring ring at a low enough speed to make it work right.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  06:38:19  Show Profile
I don't think that it does release when you want to leave. You'll need to reach down and undo it. From what I read it helps to attach to the mooring but not detach:

"As you come up on a mooring ball reach out with your boat hook, attach the mooring hook to the ball, pull back your boat hook and the mooring hook will slide free from the bracket."

Sliding free from the bracket means the shackle stays on the mooring buoy as I read it.

Here is an alternative called the Happy Hooker. It actually passes a line through the mooring ring so it is easy to release the line and leave the mooring. It is the one David describes I believe. We have one and it actually does pass a line through the ring and you bring it back to the boat leaving no hardware on the ring. Ingenious - BUT - it only works well on a fixed ring standing straight up on the mooring ball. If the ring is loose on the mooring ball then it is difficult to make the connection. Alas the rings in the San Juans all seem to be loose. Anyone is welcome to mine for $20.




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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  08:32:12  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Sold, Randy! The '09 price for that Stearns Happy Hooker is now almost 60 bucks at WM!, up 25 since '08. Give me your address and the 20 buck check'll be in the mail. Our address:
1529 E. Ocean Blvd.
Long Beach, CA 90802

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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  10:00:01  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Ours is vaguely similar, but allows you to actually hook the ring and then pull back on the device which traps the ring and passes the line through it. Then you just pull it back onto the boat. I'll see if I can find a listing for it, I don't think they're made any more.

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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  11:01:38  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Heh, Randy, I think you're just getting rid of the plastic one so you can buy the $450 stainless one.

I've looked all over the place to find the one we have to no avail. I don't think it's made any more. I picked it up in a local chandelry a few years ago and don't recall who made it.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  12:11:08  Show Profile
Frank, sent my address to you via forum e-mail.


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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 07/19/2009 :  20:47:44  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Didn't get it. Send to my e-mail address: aa.diver@verizon.net

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/20/2009 :  12:47:39  Show Profile
Frank. I sent to the e-mail you noted. You should probably delete that post now so your e-mail doesn't get lifted by SPAMers.

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Response Posted - 07/20/2009 :  21:17:43  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Got it, check's in the mail. Thanks.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 07/22/2009 :  14:54:33  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Randy, the Happy Hooker came today (no double entendre intended ;-) and I have two questions:

1. How far should a boat be from the mooring ball once it's attached?

2. Should the 3/8 mooring line be polyprop so it floats, or standard dacron mooring line?

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/22/2009 :  16:55:58  Show Profile
We usually have 6' or so of line from the bow. Ours does not float.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 07/22/2009 :  23:09:30  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
I assume in single handing I attach one end of the mooring line to the starboard bow cleat, lead the line aft outboard of the shrouds and lifelines, and connect the bitter end to the Hooker. Then I motor alongside the ball, hook the Hooker through the ring, bring the bitter end in, untie the knot, then bring it to the bow and secure it to the cleat. I'd feel more comfortable with 12 to 15 feet separating my bow from the mooring ball. What say you?

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Response Posted - 07/23/2009 :  06:32:28  Show Profile
Are all moorings set up to attach to the ball? Seems like I've read that you scoop up a line and tie to your boat....

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/23/2009 :  07:05:55  Show Profile
Merrick, I believe Frank is referring to transient moorings. The setup you describe would be a good solution for a private mooring that you use frequently.

Frank, I don't see why a longer mooring line would be a problem as long as you don't get to close to other moored boats.

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Response Posted - 07/23/2009 :  10:25:57  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Yes, transient moorings; balls with just a ring on top. I'll be practicing locally with Happy Hooker off White Island and I'll take pics and post.

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