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NCBrew
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Initially Posted - 12/11/2009 : 07:15:06

I am still thinking about purchasing a Cataline 25

. I have looked at a couple of them, mostly fixer uppers. I live on a canal leading to Albemarle Sound NC and would keep the boat in the water. There are local facilities to haul it out when necessary. I am getting worried about a swing keel and from advise on this forum I think I would prefer a wing keel. With that, I ask everyone to be on the lookout for a winged keel Catalina about 25 '.

I have been searching the internet for hours with no luck. I live in North East NC. I would travel about 500 miles by land if I found one on a trailer. I can also go north to about Baltimore MD or south to Myrtle beach, SC if I have to move it by the ICW.

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Patrick, NCBrew
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1998 Catalina 250WK
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I spent most of my money on boats and beer, the rest I just wasted.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 15:41:50

One of the nice things about fin keels is how they shed things like kelp strands and bouy lines without hanging up. As I recall, the last time I crossed the sound from the Outer Banks to the mainland it was loaded with traps (or nets) with thousand of bouys attached. Something to ponder.

If you are not familiar with CraigsList that would be a good place to keep an eye out. There are several east coast cities with their own sites as well as eastern NC.

http://eastnc.craigslist.org/
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/boa/1466835202.html
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/1500703000.html
http://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/boa/1494990521.html
http://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/1472839395.html

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 18:09:44

The difference in draft between the wing and the fin is only 13 inches (2 feet 11 inches versus 4 feet).

Don't you have 4 feet of water everywhere?

Grounding the fin in soft mud is nothing to worry about.

With the wing the rudder is the low spot.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 20:34:10

Hey Chief
Here's one not far from you. It's listed on towndock.net site in Oriental. I could not get a link to work so I just copied and pasted the add here. I live around the bend from you on the Pamlico River and had a 250 Wing Keel. With the shallow waters we sail, the 25 wing is a good choice for you.

Tom
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Posted by: Nadi Findikli from: Cary, NC Phone: 919-749-2669
For Sale: 1989 Catalina 25 Wing-Keel, Tall Rig w/ Diesel *reduced*
This boat is one of the last Catalina 25's made, a rare model with a diesel engine. She is a small cruiser with many big-boat features (inboard diesel engine, marine head with holding tank). The inboard engine allows the propeller to stay in the water even when encountering waves. She will happily and comfortably take you anywhere in the NC lakes or sounds. She is clean, in a slip in Oriental and ready to go.

Asking Price: $10,000

Pictures available at: http://picasaweb.google.com/BabuHu/Babu_C25?authkey=Gv1sRgCOGHv_Sy-O2VTA&feat=directlink
Details available at: http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddmh6dzr_05phhj9fg

Wing Keel (2'10" draft)
Tall Rig
Universal Diesel Engine
Marine head with holding tank
pop-top with canvas/screen cover
All CG safety gear, Dock lines, Fenders, 2 12V fans
Engine professionally re-built 2008
12V in boat and mast re-wired 2005
New jabsco head 2009 (not used yet)
New Deep-cycle battery 2009

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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 22:29:43

If you're happy with the inboard diesel, Tom might have a winner! There are pluses and minuses... but it looks like a very nice boat!

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KD4AO
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Response Posted - 12/13/2009 : 07:19:23

I will soon be making the decision to sell my 2003 Catalina 250 WK, due to family health problems. It is farther away than 500 miles so may not be of interest to you. You may email me if you would like to know more.

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Scooter
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Response Posted - 12/14/2009 : 08:34:30

FWIW. Having a fin keel anywhere in Eastern NC is asking to spend more time aground than a wing. The silt shifts constantly and, even though there's not much lunar tide, there can be wind tides of over a foot or more. Hurricanes can completely change channels, etc...

I sail a Cat 25 wing out of Vandemere and almost anywhere you go in eastern NC you have to keep on your toes at all times. The saying around here is "It's not a question of if but a question of when and how often". The charts aren't always able to be up to date with the shifting channels.

That extra 13 inches (minus the rudder) means a bunch around here. You can do it but it just sometimes limits where you can go. There's many larger sailboats around here that get around fine. It just means you may have to anchor out farther from shore and things like that. One thing that happens around here is anchoring up a river or canal and having the wind shift and getting locked in. You're not aground but the channel is too low to get out. There are several marina's that have that issue. They can only get out of the marina's channel if the wind is right (or at least NOT in the wrong direction).

A fin can work around here but (like most things about sailing) it's probably a personal preference. There is something to be said about a wing having the rudder sticking down below the wing. That's my biggest worry. I have touched the rudder before the wing a few times. It just takes extra caution and awareness.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/14/2009 : 14:01:25

How about a wing with a beaching rudder?

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Gambit
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Response Posted - 12/23/2009 : 10:11:37

I saw this one on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25-WING-KEEL-CATALINA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c5252bdc5QQitemZ190359715269QQptZSailboats

I have no connection to or other knowledge about this project boat. It is likely over your mileage limit and may need a trailer.

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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 12/23/2009 : 11:00:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 How about a wing with a beaching rudder?
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The wing is deeper than the standard rudder, so there's really no point in getting a kick-up rudder with that boat. In fact, the standard rudder is only a couple of inches deeper than the swing keel in the up position, and that's a useful warning signal that you're about to run aground. IMHO, the kick-up rudder is superfluous.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/23/2009 : 13:56:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gambit
 
I saw this one on ebay...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">He bought one and is [url="http://catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20814"]on his way home on the ICW[/url] (or may have arrived).

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 12/24/2009 : 09:01:26

The eBay boat was removed from the auction. I was going to go take a look at it until I saw the interior painted yellow. And it was removed!

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DUBHE
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Response Posted - 12/29/2009 : 18:29:22

I HAVE A 250 WK, 2004, CUSTOM CUSHIONS, WHEEL STEERING, 9.9 YAMAHA 4 STROKE, DEPTH FINDER, GPS AT HELM, TRAILER, IN WATER, WITH BOTTOM PAINT, CORPUS CHRISTI, TX THAT I PLAN ON SELLING DUE TO HEALTH PROBLEMS

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