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zeil
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Initially Posted - 12/16/2009 : 23:21:23

A sailboat across from us in Marina Village, San Diego named "Get A Grip", owned by Bill a 76 year old former philosophy professor is rowed single-handed out of the slip to the mouth of the harbor to go for a daily sail... note the on-board solar collectors. Bill spends a great deal of his time on board. Way to go Bill...!!

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Edited by - zeil on 12/16/2009 23:33:36

delliottg
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Response Posted - 12/16/2009 : 23:57:23

I once saw a lady rowing sailboat on Lake Champlain, about a 30 footer. She was on top of the cabin with really long oars like in your photos while two guys sat in the cockpit drinking beers. Oh, and she was toplesss.

Didn't the Pardies (sp?) sail around the world in Serafin w/o an engine? He used a long sweep over the stern to keep her moving.

I hope I'm still going strong like that when I'm in my 70's.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 06:07:01

I had an old friend who sailed a 30' Etchell sans engine. He kept a paddle aboard to use when the wind died. I have used it, and it wasn't bad, even when we had to paddle for a fair distance, but I wouldn't want to have to paddle it against a current. It took a few strokes to get it started, but after it began to move, the paddling became easier, as long as you established a steady rhythm.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 08:31:12

What is the apparatus that runs along both sides over the coamings? The port side of it connects to another apparatus bu the swim ladder cutout.

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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 10:04:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 What is the apparatus that runs along both sides over the coamings? The port side of it connects to another apparatus bu the swim ladder cutout.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Good question... Hydrofoils?

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redviking
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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 10:12:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 I once saw a lady rowing sailboat on Lake Champlain, about a 30 footer. She was on top of the cabin with really long oars like in your photos while two guys sat in the cockpit drinking beers. Oh, and she was toplesss.
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Renzo and I are waiting for pics...

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 10:25:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What is the apparatus that runs along both sides over the coamings? The port side of it connects to another apparatus bu the swim ladder cutout.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Looks like another set of oars. I have seen this gentleman while visiting Mission Bay. He is no fair-weather sailor. Have to admire a sailor who considers an engine an unneeded luxury.

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zeil
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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 11:31:05

The apparatus running parallel to the coamings suspend the oarlocks...
then... to make the task of rowing easier Bill has attached a bungy cord type system to the oars...

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jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 12/17/2009 : 17:44:13

That looks like a "Sanford and Son" brand sailboat. Even the dock is cluttered.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/18/2009 : 09:19:57

What is that pole-like thing used for that is going from the cockpit floor up to the boom then to the mast?

Did he convert his swim ladder into a water slide?

Edited by - dlucier on 12/18/2009 13:42:56

JohnP
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Response Posted - 12/18/2009 : 13:58:11

I've seen Paul Zell's "sweep" that he has used from the stern like the sweep used on Chinese junks and other small boats.

This last summer my outboard was in the shop for TOO LONG, and a friend lent me his 2.5 hp dinghy outboard, but I also made a sweep out of my multi-purpose 9' long aluminum Sunfish mast with an 8' oar I carved out of an 8' 2x6 board. The handle-end of the oar fits into the aluminum pole a few feet to make about a 15 foot long sweep with a 4' blade. I tie the center of the sweep onto the starboard coaming winch.

I practised a few times with the thing, and I use it like a Venetian gondola sweep, paddling on the starboard side, feathering, and paddling forward again. I steered by straddling the tiller. With this one paddle I could only get up to 1 knot in calm conditions. I can use it to enter or exit my marina if I need to, but only with winds no stronger than a few knots at the dock.

Interestingly, the gondoliers in Venice have a tall, C-shaped wooden oarlock that holds the sweep securely for paddling but also allows quick dismounting of the sweep when passing other boats or buildings by a few inches on the crowded canals there.

On my imitation sweep tied to the winch I kept the loop of rope pretty loose so that I could detach my sweep really quickly, too. The gondoliers steer with a kind of [url="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/105247/venice_gondola_ride_on_the_grand_canal_italy/"]J-stroke[/url], like canoers, but their boats weigh only a few hundred pounds.

A Catalina 25 is definitely not a sleek rowing skiff.

I recommend 2 oars for anyone considering making this kind of setup, but I will keep my sweep aboard the Gypsy for that unforseen. emergency.

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zeil
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Response Posted - 12/20/2009 : 22:39:35

It is obvious that Bill's sail boat, dock area and most likely the interior cabin are unique in many ways... Unfortunately we won't be able to question Bill about all the additions and modifications he made since we left Marina Village, Mission Bay 3 days ago and just arrived home after the 2200 km (1500 mile) trip from San Diego to Langley, BC.

However the "water slide" like swim ladder is actually a flexible solar collector to power his turbine... (who knows!!) Other than having an extra set of oars on port side, using bungees to assist with rowing, contraptions and framework to secure and suspend the oarlocks we're guessing as well at Bill's other inventions... (plan to follow up and report when we next visit C dock , Marina Village, Mission Bay, San Diego hopefully sometime next winter...)

Want to join us??... it is a wonderful place with a great variety of things to do both on the water and on land...

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