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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 11/02/2002 :  11:38:54  Show Profile
Hi Folks,

Just as soon as I sell my Catalina 22 I'll be buying a 25. My 22 has a dinette which i leave in the down position with a cushion over the table. it makes for a nice couch for lounging, or entertaining. It is a little small for sleeping. I was wondering if someone with a dinette style 25 could measure the length of the dinette and then maybe the width. I was wondering if it is good for sleeping.

The traditional layout does look pretty neat, but the seats look a little narrow for sleeping.

Any thoughts or feedback will be greatly appreciated

Frank Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/02/2002 :  13:08:36  Show Profile
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Frank,

Only if you sleep in the fetal position.

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H20boy
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Response Posted - 11/02/2002 :  13:26:18  Show Profile
At 6'1" there are really no sleeping areas big/long enough...but the cramps are worth it...

Rick Price
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/02/2002 :  16:30:43  Show Profile
Hi Frank,

I think that someone has figured out a way to make a full-sized bed in the main cabin, regardless of the type layout. Here is a dinette model from the Tech Tips section ("Not Yet!") ...

<img src="http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/ny!bed.jpg" border=0>

You might also check the Tech Tips under "Reina II" for another dinette layout with a full-sized bed modification.

I've got what has been called the "original traditional" layout ... I plan to make a platform to span from the table to the starboard settee, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

Personally, I think the quarterberth is a great place for a tall person to sleep, but it seems that most Catalina 25 owners disagree with me on that one ... they use the quarterberth for storage, kids' play areas, dog houses, and all sorts of stuff, but they don't like to sleep there.

Anyway, 'hope your 22 sells soon!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 11/02/2002 :  17:55:13  Show Profile
I don't have the exact measurements, but if you lower the table and put the board across the aisle per the tech tips instructions, you get a queen-sized bed. I'm 6'3", and my wife and I sleep with great comfort in that berth. We have a queen sized bed at home, and it's pretty equivalent.

Brooke





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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 11/03/2002 :  03:01:41  Show Profile
Bingo! I used to hate the arrangements on my traditional interior. Only the quarterberth for me.....but the bed modification to queen sized berth and sleeping athwartships works well for me. It means one extra cushion and two pieces of plywood on my boat, but it's probably the best single modification one can do, if sleeping aboard is a common thing. Do it!

Gary B
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/04/2002 :  08:47:32  Show Profile
thanks for all the good information I repeat my original question. What is the distance between the seat backs in the dinette interior.

Thanks in advance

Frank Gloss
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/04/2002 :  10:51:58  Show Profile
I recall it's just about an even 60"... Queen size width.

One advantage with the dinette is that you only have to bridge the narrow aisle to make a queen-sized double. In Buzz's picture, that's the 2nd set of cusions from the starboard side. Everything to port of that is the dinette seats and lowered table. The width to bridge is almost identical to the width of the second quarterberth cushion the goes under the companionway--I shortened that cushion for the purpose. (I can't use the seatbacks because we made our new seat bottom and berth cushions thicker.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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John J.
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Response Posted - 11/17/2002 :  10:12:59  Show Profile
Hi Dave , I also hope to make this modification. My boat is locked away, snug inside for the winter so not easily accessible for measuring. Can this modification be made using the existing cushions? Mine is a dinette also......Thanks!


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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/17/2002 :  13:57:19  Show Profile
John: Some have used the seatback cushions to fill the gap... We had new cushions made with thicker seat bottoms and berths than the originals, so the seat backs cushions don't work well. However, the quarterberth has two cushions--a wide, tapered one that fits against the starboard side, and a long, narrow rectangle that goes aft of the companionway steps and under cockpit floor. The width of that cushion is almost perfect for filling the aisle--in fact, mine fits a little tightly. However, it was much too long, so I had the shop that made them cut it down to 55", assuming we will never need it in the quarterberth. That matches the length from the bulkhead back to the angled corner of the aft dinette seat. I'll build the "bridge" during this off-season after I decide how I want to engineer it.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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John J.
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Response Posted - 11/17/2002 :  18:52:20  Show Profile
Thanks Dave!


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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/17/2002 :  19:04:00  Show Profile
The queen size bed looks great for the dinette model. If I buy a traditional interior, which I do like the best, has anybody figured out how to make a queen size bed in it. I thought maybe a swing up panel from the front of the starboard settee on a piano hinge might work.

I do like the 25's though. Makes my 22 look really cramped.

Frank
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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/23/2002 :  09:05:46  Show Profile
Frank,

I have the dinette model and have been wanting to measure the space across the seats but when my bean gets in sail mode I loose consciousness for all else. Sorry. Yesterday it measured 60 inches +/- 1' not including the cushions.

Val on "CALISTA" # 3936

Val Bisagni

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Response Posted - 11/23/2002 :  12:47:27  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
I had a traditional interior. I made the whole cabin into a queen size bed by putting boards / slats between the seats. We slept port to Stbd and it is just over 6'6" wide. It doesnt get any better that that. Oh yea wait it does. I also used on of those large inflatable air matreses and it fit.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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BCain
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Response Posted - 11/23/2002 :  18:01:52  Show Profile
I decided that the v-berth and coffin berth were just not what I wanted to sleep in on my traditional interior. I cut 5/8" ply, mounted table legs spaced for the weight and slide the ply under the seat when not needed. [community.webshots.com/rs1/1/31/77/32213177kUsjucwEjG_ph.jpg][/img]

Well, that did,t work. How do you post a picture again?

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