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Sloop Smitten
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Initially Posted - 03/10/2010 : 19:25:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">HIN Formats Before August 1, 1984

The boat manufacturer must display two identical hull identification numbers, no less than one-fourth of an inch high, on each boat hull. The primary HIN must be permanently affixed (so that it can be seen from outside the boat) to the starboard side of the transom within two inches of the top of the transom, gunwale, or hull/deck joint, whichever is lowest. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I have one on the rear starboard side of the transom just under the rubrail. Anyone ever see another on a C25?

Joe Wergers
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/10/2010 : 20:07:00

Joe, another thread pointed out that the C250 has the HIN 'Label' embeded into the Stbd Cabin Locker on the inside.

Don't kwow where on the C25 a second 'label' is located though.
Paul

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Response Posted - 03/10/2010 : 20:25:14

I never found another one on my '85. What it had looked like it was scratched into the gelcoat with a nail.

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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 09:31:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 . . . it had looked like it was scratched into the gelcoat with a nail . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Hulls that had initial defects coming out of the mold had their hins scribed with a pick (as opposed to a stamp) after they were re-worked.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 10:49:18

Oh crap! Well, the hull has lasted 25 years, I guess it's still OK.
I went looking for the HIN last week, any idea where to look?

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 11:45:06

Does anyone have a C-25 with a molded in # on the transom? I've neither heard of one nor OJ's comment. Just curious.

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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 12:23:18

The HIN is impressed after the hull comes out of the mold. It's just below the rub-rail on the starboard side of the transom. It starts with CTY. Mine had a K after that--I think that means "Keel" (fixed fin). The hull number is digits 5-8, followed by the month and year built.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 13:47:16

Actually the format of the HIN is dependent on if the boat was built before or after August 1, 1984. So the format of the HIN on my 78 model would differ from the 85 model that Dave use to own. This link explains it all.

[url="http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm"]HIN Numbers[/url]

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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 14:11:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 . . . I've neither heard of one nor OJ's comment . . .
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Gotcha!

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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 19:23:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by OJ
 Hulls that had initial defects coming out of the mold had their hins scribed with a pick (as opposed to a stamp) after they were re-worked.
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I feel my leg being pulled....HARD!

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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 19:37:37

Several years ago someone here complained about some of the silly, made-up stories about C25s and suggested/requested that these types of posts stop . . . to which I immediately replied "I understand the mizzen mast on the C25 is actaully the same one used for the main mast on the C22."

Okay, I have cabin fever!

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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 20:11:48

Good stuff! Mine has a metal plate just below the tiller on the rear wall of the cockpit but I don't find anything on the outside of the transom.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 22:02:38

Regarding HIN numbers: CTY is the 3 character identifier for Catalina Yachts, and the "K" is the model indicator for the C-25 (C-22's have the letter "H"). The middle 4 characters represent the hull number and should be the same as in the transom plate and the sail number. The last 4 characters indicate the month and year built, sometimes the model year as well.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/12/2010 : 06:44:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does anyone have a C-25 with a molded in # on the transom? I've neither heard of one nor OJ's comment. Just curious.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes my 87 does. It is molded or stamped on the transom,Starboard side below the rub rail with block letters but is definitely not scratched in.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 05:23:49

Mine is stamped in too.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 07:59:05

C25s were built in a California plant and in a Florida plant. I wonder if one of the plants used a stamp to put on the numbers, and the other scratched them in, probably with an engraving pen. I can see the possibility that it might be less time consuming to put them on by hand, with an engraving pen, and maybe one plant manager directed it to be done that way.

It wouldn't make sense, for legal reasons, to label a boat as defective, and then not disclose that fact to the buyer, who's paying full price for it. If they wanted to preserve a record of boats with defects, they could have done it in the privacy of their non-public company records, and not by carving it onto the boats, for all the world to see.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 09:42:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Mine has a metal plate just below the tiller on the rear wall of the cockpit<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

The plate, at least on Pearl, doesn't include the entire HIN. I discovered that when I got insurance and had to come here with the occasionally recurring HIN question. Careful examination with a flashlight at low angles revealed it below the rubrail.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 10:34:39

I have an 82 and HIN# is on the starboard side ... looks like a kid carving... good enough for the registry though

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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 11:22:31

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
 It wouldn't make sense, for legal reasons, to label a boat as defective, and then not disclose that fact to the buyer, who's paying full price for it...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You haven't been in a car/truck plant...

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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 15:32:41

For what it's worth, my 1980 has the HIN molded in outside starboard side under the rub rail and has a metal plate just below the tiller on the inboard side of the transom. I believe I read on a different thread that their might also be a number somewhere on the inner hull behind a bulkhead or cabinet, but I have never had the urge to look.

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 03/13/2010 : 20:08:48

I found the one on the transom and the metal plate.

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