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Prospector
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Initially Posted - 03/11/2010 : 06:35:38

Last season at haul-out our tack shackle snapped. I won't say what the occurrance was that caused it to break because that would be too embarassing. Lets just say that shortcuts aren't usually a good thing.

For those who don't know the part I am talking about - it is the clip at the bow that holds the jib to the deck at the tack, or leading corner of the sail.

Does anyone have a source for a tack shackle that matches OEM? I have found them availabale from various manufacturers, but most of them seem to be a little shorter than the original Trident stuff the boats were outfitted with. Even CD doesn't stock an exact match. While there is only about an inch of difference in the length of the shackles, I would like to keep the original fitment, mostly because I like stressing over little things that don't matter.

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 07:21:42

As I remember, in 1984 Catalina simply used a standard "D" shackle for the jib tack. Probably a 1/4" pin and about a inch and three quarters long.

Many owners upgraded this to a tack snap-shackle. Ronstan and Wichard both make good ones. West Marine has 'em...... as well as many other chandleries.

Bill Holcomb - - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 07:34:41

That's the way I remember it, too, Bill. I replaced mine with a Ronstan snap shackle, and never again had to hunt for a pair of pliers or shackle wrench to unscrew the shackle pin. It's one of those little changes that's well worth doing, because it keeps paying for itself every time you put on or take off a sail.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 07:42:51

Huh. The one I broke was the same brand as all the other OEM stuff - with the trident on the side, and I thought was specially sized by Catalina. Maybe I'll just go with whatever is on the shelf at the chandlery then.

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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 08:02:40

50 years from now, some antique boat collector is gonna knock down your price because you don't have the OEM shackle!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/11/2010 : 09:09:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 50 years from now, some antique boat collector is gonna knock down your price because you don't have the OEM shackle!
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well thats one more hit on the kids' inheritance I guess. Just wait til lI replace the jib Sheaves with the ones from Garhauer!

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 03/12/2010 : 05:59:07

You could just use a piece of line

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 03/15/2010 : 09:50:08

Hi Happy,
Well, yes, you could use a piece of line... but there are a couple of potential problems:
1. The line could chafe through while you are sailing - requiring that you re-rig the tack.
2. The knot might get so tight that you'll have to cut the line to take the sail below or change to a different sail - again requiring re-rigging the line.
3. If you want to change the jib to a different one, you will appreciate the convenience of the snap-shackle.
So, I'd still vote for a tack snap-shackle.
Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Response Posted - 03/16/2010 : 09:29:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Happy D
 You could just use a piece of line

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I know Bill already chimed in on this, but he missed my main reason for going with a tack Shackle over a piece of line. My main reason is 01:30 in a storm just off Kempenfelt Bay when I had to go forward to do a sail change. Just staying on the boat was a big deal. Getting the sail down and changed was a bonus.

Now I know that all of you change early, and that weather never catches you unprepared, but I am always an inch away from proving Darwin right. Anything that makes getting sails up and down faster in a storm holds Darwin off for one more outing.

If a line is chafing it will fail when under max. load - like in a storm.
A knot is hardest to untie after being subjected to heavy loads - like in a storm (OK, you can tell me about how to break a slip knot...)
In a blow, convenience MEANS safety, if done right.

I could go on. Lets just say I think the $80 for a new shackle is worth it.

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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 03/16/2010 : 11:27:29

Yup, but as I recall, you've already made Darwin irrelevant... He has to get you before you procreate.

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 03/17/2010 : 05:20:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I would like to keep the original fitment, mostly because I like stressing over little things that don't matter.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I was teasing with regards to this comment....
I stress over things that just don't matter also

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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/17/2010 : 05:53:56

On mine, because I sail in a crowded lake, I've got the snapshackle to a line, through a block with the line to the cleat. So I've got a "downhaul". I let it out some on the smaller jib so it is set higher, and I can see under it which makes it easier to see the nuts ( stinkboaters ) coming at me.

And I can harden up the jib halyard pretty easily.

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